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fred Citruholic
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134
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Posted: Mon 21 Jan, 2013 3:05 pm |
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Laaz wrote: | I hope so, I don't want to see Greening showing up near me. But then again, it means I can get a clean Dekopan. |
If you call-- MAKE SURE you talk to Ruth-- just tell anyone else you will call back later , she has all the latest info.
She told "Nicky" she will send him some , he lives up north(NY.PA.NJ area)
Stan communicates with her very regularly. |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Mon 21 Jan, 2013 3:28 pm |
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Good, glad to know, and I know it's a tough place to be right now, if you own citrus. I can only imagine. I am treating my prized citrus collection twice a year with Bayer Advanced, just as a precautionary measure, as they have identified the ACP up in N. San Diego county, only about 15 miles from where I live. This is coming up from Mexico for us here in San Diego county, and it is nearly impossible to stop. Some being due to illegal transportation of plants, and some just the natural migration of the ACP, itself.
And, I haven't read where anyone on the list has posted disrespectful or hateful comments towards those who live in Florida. If you could forward that information to either Laaz or any one of the moderators via a PM, we would appreciate it. Laaz does an exceptional job keep the tone of his forum positive and informational, and he and the moderators will not hesitate to stop any threads or comments that are disrespectful to any of our forum members. This is a very international forum, and we have USA members from just about every state in the nation. Please let us know privately, what posts concern you. _________________ Patty S.
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Tue 22 Jan, 2013 8:30 pm |
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Good point, Fred. The Dekopon tree at UCR Citrus Variety Collection is at least that old, and they really were quite good. SO much better than what I had just bought at the specialty market about 3 weeks prior. _________________ Patty S.
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fred Citruholic
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134
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Posted: Tue 22 Jan, 2013 8:54 pm |
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Laaz wrote: | I hope so, I don't want to see Greening showing up near me. But then again, it means I can get a clean Dekopan. |
I just called Ruth @ Harris today-- they can ship out of state , for certain.
She said not all nurseries are approved to ship out of state but theirs is- they get inspected every 15 days by state and USDA inspectors. If you want her # - PM me & I will send it to you |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Tue 22 Jan, 2013 9:19 pm |
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Good for them! Just wish we could get stuff coming into California, sigh. I will be sure to ask the folks at CCPP this spring about any more leads on budwood for the Dekopon/Shiranui. Hopefully, now that I think the majority of their cultivars are under screen, they will be able to re-visit this little project. _________________ Patty S.
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harveyc Citruholic
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 372 Location: Sacramento Delta USDA Zone 9
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Posted: Tue 12 Mar, 2013 4:16 am |
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Does anybody have any photos of Dekopon seedlings to show? Mine from 2011 were albino and died. I just got another seed in a fruit tonight and am going to give it another shot. _________________ Harvey |
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mksmth Citruholic
Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 109 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
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Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2013 5:27 pm |
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harveyc wrote: | Does anybody have any photos of Dekopon seedlings to show? Mine from 2011 were albino and died. I just got another seed in a fruit tonight and am going to give it another shot. |
I came here to say this as well. Found one yesterday. I feel i should go buy a lottery ticket, LOL
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2013 5:34 pm |
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Unless I lived in a citrus state where out of state trees are not allowed, I wouldn't bother planting Dekopon seeds. The purchase of mature nursery Dekopon tree are very easy to purchase. Why waste your time and wait 8 to 10 years for fruit. - Millet |
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mksmth Citruholic
Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 109 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
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Posted: Tue 19 Mar, 2013 11:15 pm |
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Because I have nothing better to do with it. LoL.
Mike |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2013 12:03 am |
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I just purchased three Dekopon trees and another Xie Shan (which in my humble opinion is a better tasting fruit than Dekopon. ) - Millet |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2013 1:58 am |
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Millet, where did you purchase your Dekopons and Xie Shan? _________________ Patty S.
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2013 11:05 am |
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More than likely Harris citrus in FL. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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harveyc Citruholic
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 372 Location: Sacramento Delta USDA Zone 9
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Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2013 2:12 pm |
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Millet, of course, I can't import Florida Dekopon into California.
You've expressed your views before about Dekopon's taste but, unless I've missed it, you've compared store-purchased Dekopon which I sent you to Xie Shan harvested fresh from your own trees. Patty has indicated that the Dekopon she's eaten fresh off the tree at UCR was much better than the store-bought fruit she tried so I hope your experience is the same!
Looks like the Dekopon season is over. The supermarket I've bought them from a few times this year had maybe 40 fruits on display and they were all very soft with about 10 showing rot...pretty disgusting for a store that typically prides itself on produce quality! I mentioned it to the person stocking produce and she said she would check it out when she was done with her current task. I thought about asking her to give me the rotten fruits so I could check for more seeds. This is a very expensive fruit, selling for $2.99/pound and the rind probably making up at least 35% of the weight. _________________ Harvey |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2013 2:39 pm |
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In talking with Luen Miller up at Monterey Bay Nursery in California (fabulous nursery, great person), he pointed something out that I thought was salient about the store-bought Dekopons: First, they are very young trees, probably only on year 4 this season. Plus, they tend to pick the Dekopons a little early, to keep the shiny appearance on the skins. As they mature, then tend to dull and even develop a bit of russetting, which can be less appealing to the retail customer. So, you're not getting them at their best. When I tested the taste of the Dekopon in February at the UCR Citrus Variety Collection, I was probablly tasting them at peak harvest, and the tree there is at least 5 years old or older. So, yes, I did experience much better fruit. I didn't even bother to buy them in the store this year. I think Millet will be surprised at the quality of the Dekopon in his own greenhouse. Eventually we'll get something here in California if UCR can acquire some Shiranui budwood from U of FL. _________________ Patty S.
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2013 6:15 pm |
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Remember when Dekopon first came to the public view? Dekopon trees were going to be kept from the general public, and the only possible way to ever obtain a Dekopon tree was to be lucky enough to find a seed in the fruit. As far as I know, never ever ever and again never ever, has that ploy been successful. It has never taken very long for an elusive cultivar to find its way into the public domain. Actually this even remains true for citrus growing states, where Citrus trees from outside of the state "cannot" be shipped into the state. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the latter situation is not valid and indeed needed, but with Citrus and other type of fruit trees it always happens. - Millet |
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