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dauben
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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 12:21 pm

Does anyone know anything about Dekopan described in the article below? The $9 price tag caught my eye.

http://www.hgtv.com/landscaping/succulent-citrus/index.html?soc=share

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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 1:15 pm

Looks very similar to the Ponkan.

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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 1:39 pm

I'll never get it... a bit further down in the article, it reads...

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Add a handful of slow-release fertilizer that's low in nitrogen but high in phosphorus to promote good fruit formation


That's completely opposite to what's generally accepted here on the forum! Or am I missing something?

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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 3:12 pm

...................."that's low in nitrogen but high in phosphorus"...............

I was just about to post the very same remarks as MarcV when I seen his post above. Disagree with much of HGTV's instructions concerning the container growing of citrus. Millet (861-)
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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 5:29 pm

Did they say to add compost and mulch to the pot as well?
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dauben
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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 7:11 pm

Millet wrote:

I was just about to post the very same remarks as MarcV when I seen his post above. Disagree with much of HGTV's instructions concerning the container growing of citrus. Millet (861-)


I love watching HGTV, but the impression I get from many of their shows is that they focus on areas (and are likely based in areas) outside of citrus growing areas. They don't likely have the expertise to get things correct when they do venture outside their box and don't do their homework. Then again even in my neck of the woods, I've seen things marketed and/or nursery staff say things that are completely incorrect. That's what makes these types of groups invaluable because it allows the consumer to do what they should be doing . . . Their own research. I killed my first few citrus trees by planting in the native heavy clay soil. I think that is how I stumbled upon this group and started to successfully grow my first few citrus trees.

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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 10:25 pm

Laaz wrote:
Looks very similar to the Ponkan.


My Ponkans do not have a neck--my Minneola Tangelos do.

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Mark_T
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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 11:19 pm

I found some info on Dekopan in Spanish, while searching for info on the Kiyomi tangor. Apparently, it's a cross between a Kiyomi tangor and a Ponkan.

A Kiyomi tangor is cross between a Trovita orange and a Mikan or Satsuma. Kiyomi is a variety from Japan and the cross interested me so I've been considering getting one and I stumbled upon this.

Dekopan seems like a very interesting variety.

http://www.brasilescola.com/frutas/dekopon.htm



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Posted: Sun 05 Sep, 2010 11:30 pm

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dauben
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Posted: Mon 06 Sep, 2010 1:29 am

Mark_T wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dekopon

Someone get one!!!!


I had looked at UCR's budwood list already and didn't see it on there. It would be nice to get another cultivar it going here in the States. In Japan, it looks like it's grown more than the Ponkan.

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Mark_T
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Posted: Mon 06 Sep, 2010 2:23 am

They (UCR) have Kiyomi, which I guess is used a lot in Japan to create hybrids since it's appears to be mono. I don't know of anyone growing it either. It's on the budwood list.

I wonder if Dekopon is under a different name at UCR? That article you posted said it tastes like nothing else. The wiki article makes it seem like the Japanese are crazed for it. It also has a high sugar content.
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Mark_T
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Posted: Mon 06 Sep, 2010 2:41 am

dauben, UCR has it. Listed under other Mandarins, it's Siranui dekopan mandarin hybrid. Not on the budwood list though, perhaps someone should ask for details.

I also found this article:

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ek20090122wh.html
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dauben
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Posted: Mon 06 Sep, 2010 2:53 am

Mark_T wrote:
dauben, UCR has it. Listed under other Mandarins, it's Siranui dekopan mandarin hybrid. Not on the budwood list though, perhaps someone should ask for details.

I also found this article:

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ek20090122wh.html


Thanks. After reading the article, it makes me want to get one even more. Does anyone know anyone at UCR or in Japan? Smile
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Mark_T
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Posted: Mon 06 Sep, 2010 3:09 am

I would bet a million dollars Gene Lester has it Smile I'm not sure if Gene Lester is a member?
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Millet
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Posted: Mon 06 Sep, 2010 8:58 pm

Mark, I would take that bet. - Millet (860-)
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