100% Sure- I asked them last week

Also they are sending some to a forum member in the northeast later this year

Folks can call Ruth and ask her

Phillip do you know where they buy there citrus trees from? Having a Finger Lime is really unusual for a Lowes!

I hope so, I don't want to see Greening showing up near me. But then again, it means I can get a clean Dekopan.

Laaz, let us know if you're able to order a Dekopon

Fred, I said "able", because so far, we have not seen any FL growers ship outside of Florida, yet. Not to say that growers who qualify and meet those stringent requirements are not shipping - we just haven't seen this on the forum, yet. I'm glad that growers who meet requirements are able to do this - it will certainly help their businesses, which have been terribly hard hit with the repercussions of HLB. We just haven't had first hand confirmation from someone outside of Florida stating they've received a citrus tree from FL, yet. We understand it's coming, though.

And yes, Dr. Alan Dodds, Professor Emeritus from UC Riverside, whom I had the pleasure of listening to about 6 months ago, at one of our CRFG meetings (and whose past students stud the "who's who" of citrus research, many leading HLB research, such as Texa A&M's Dr. Erik Mirkov and his work using spinach genes in creating genetically modified, HLB resistant citrus cultivars) said the same thing. In fact, in his slide show presentation, the infection models predict that 100% of all outdoor citrus trees in Florida will be infected with HLB within the next 5 to 7 years. And, several folks from UC Riverside have stated they fear HLB is actually already here in California, just that we haven't found it, yet (not counting the infected budwood found in Los Angeles, but actually infected trees and infected ACP's). The fear is that it is out there in someone's back yard, as about 70% of all homes in S. California have at least 1 citrus tree. It is a race for the cure for sure. There are about 20 different HLB/ACP research projects being conducted right now around the world. One of the research projects that I found most fascinating, and would have the greatest impact in my mind, especially for the dooryard orchard setting, is a research project where they are using the Tristeza virus, de-pathogenizing the organism, and using it as a "silver bullet" to carry in another organism that will attack and kill the Candidatus Liberibacter asiaticus bacteria. Thus, the tree is permanently inoculated against HLB. Sort of a "vaccine" for HLB. That way, you could keep your trees, and just project them from becoming infected with HLB. I thought this was brilliant beyond measure and am anxious to know how that particular research project is coming along.

fred wrote:

hoosierquilt wrote: Laaz, let us know if you're able to order a Dekopon Don't quite understand that ?(able) He is not in one of the restricted states --he can order some if he wants , if he doesn't get one it will be either his lack of desire or lack of funds. There are a lot of folks out there that have it I have been to Harris many times- and personally watched one of the Govt. inspectors look their plants over- he was very thorough , I got tired of watching him. On another note- I spoke with a UF research fella last month @ one of the new varietal displays for about an hour or so about greening-- and he said if you grow citrus outdoors , it's not "if" your plants will get greening , but rather "when"-- he assured me its just a matter of time as of now.

Seems like there are a number of "haters" of Florida here-- thats fine

Don't think the folks in Cal , S.Carolina or anywhere else citrus is grown year round out side are exempt-- cause your not

Just to make sure ya'll understand-- he said ALL

And ALL means EVERYBODY-- EVERYWHERE in the U.S.( if you grow outside)
No exceptions

You cant make the bug extinct--

Also I said as of now (cure)

What? No one on this forum hates Floridians or Florida citrus, Fred! I'm sorry if I gave you that perception, or if Laaz did, that is absolutely not the case whatsoever. I feel horrible for citrus growers in Florida, the commercial citrus industry has been absolutely decimated by HLB, it is shocking. Millions of dollars lost, ten's of thousands of jobs lost. We here in California are terrified, let me tell you. No one who has a modicum of knowledge about citrus would think that we are going to dodge this bullet, with all the illegal transportation of stuff up from Mexico, alone puts us at great risk. The CDFA is trying to learn from Florida, Florida having been caught off guard, and having to deal with the devastating effects of HLB. We're trying as hard as they can to keep HLB out until effective treatments or cures can be found. I never, ever said that those of us in California would ever think we'll avoid this. I do citrus presentations at our local nurseries as well as for my CRFG chapter, and am well aware that we have our proverbial necks on the chopping blocks for sure. As I mentioned in my previous post, most citrus experts quietly are stating it's probably already here, that we just haven't found it, yet, in someone's backyard. Our commercial citrus growers have been treating for the ACP for some time now, due to what has happened in Florida, that that is why researchers figure this will show up in a back yard, where people aren't treating and many residents simply don't know that much about the ACP or HLB. And yes, Dr. Dobbs stated the same thing - HLB will continue to spread to all citrus growing states slowly but surely. So, we're simply trying to stick as many fingers in the dyke as we can, in hopes we can hold out long enough for the research to provide significant treatment options or cures.

Problem Fred?

Thanks for clearing that up...

Patty S.

I think if a person who has no dog in the hunt would read the many posts by several folks here- some VERY prominent- they would come up with the same conclusion I have-- as far as the haters go

Also-- don't feel sorry for me and my citrus plants , I think it will be a while till I contract it as I take better care of my plants than 99.9% of folks. I inspect them practically daily and am on a very regimented spray program.

Also , my plants are just that-- they are plants , I have not built my life around them-- If they die-- I will get more

No offense given or taken-- on this end