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		| Tom Citruholic
 
  
 
 Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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 Location: Alabama [Central]
 
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				| Posted: Wed 20 Mar, 2013 6:42 pm |  
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				| Dekopon is interesting and the one I had was very good . I did check for seeds. That being said Dekopon will have to prove it is better than Xie Shan to me in a taste test. It may happen but Xie Shan is going to be tough to beat consistently IMHO !  Xie Shan is the best that I have ever tasted and it was a young Xie Shan !   Tom  _________________
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		| mrtexas Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 2:41 am |  
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				|  	  | Tom wrote: |  	  | Dekopon is interesting and the one I had was very good . I did check for seeds. That being said Dekopon will have to prove it is better than Xie Shan to me in a taste test. It may happen but Xie Shan is going to be tough to beat consistently IMHO !  Xie Shan is the best that I have ever tasted and it was a young Xie Shan !   Tom | 
 
 I topworked a friend's mature sour orange tree to Xie Shan two years ago. This is the first year for a lot of fruit. It was nothing special IMHO!
 
 I'll topwork his other mature sour orange tree to 88-2 lee x nova this year.
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		| Millet Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 22 Mar, 2013 11:50 am |  
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				| I must agree with Tom.  Xie Shan is the best citrus I have eaten to date..  I got my first Xie Shan tree from Mr. Texas years ago grafted upon Flying Dragon. - Millet  |  | 
	
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		| CampoCalle 
 
  
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				| Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 11:49 pm |  
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				| Several cases of Dekopon just showed up at our local independent grocer here in Redding and today my wife came home with a bag of four of them ($4 a pound).  She loved them and I liked them.  The sweetness was borderline too much for me, but it was still a rich sweetness, not insipid.  I think if given the choice I would have picked this particular fruit a bit earlier.
 
Anyway the very first fruit we tasted also had a large juicy seed!  It went right into a makeshift pot and will hopefully germinate into something other than a doomed albino.  Soon I will hopefully be able to say I **have** a Dekopon, and at a bargain price to boot. Of course as soon as a CA nursery offers them I will go out and buy a grafted tree!!
 
Here's fruit #2 and the seed from fruit #1.
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		| Millet Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 1:06 am |  
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				| Has it ever been substantiated that Dekopon seeds even  come true from seed.  Evidently the the tree only produces zygote seed, and very few of them. - Millet  |  | 
	
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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 2:35 am |  
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				| True to seed, Millet.  It is polyembryonic, and definitely will send up clones, so watch for the first and strongest seedling.  That should be your clone.  Verified this with UCR.  _________________
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		| Millet Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 3:05 am |  
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				| Patty, thank you for the information.  Here in Colorado I have never seen any of the fruit for sale anywhere. - Millet  |  | 
	
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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 11:53 am |  
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				| Well, don't feel badly, Millet.  I have to drive a fair distance myself, to buy them.  They are only being released to a very restricted marketplace right now.  Each year they expand a bit, but there simply are not that many growers growing the Dekopon right now.  This is only their 2nd or 3rd season on the market.  _________________
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		| Junglekeeper Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 8:15 pm |  
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				| This is the first year I've seen them where I am.  _________________
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		| Tom Citruholic
 
  
 
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				| Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 9:06 pm |  
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				| Mine came from Fresh Market speciality market grocery store. Not sure where they are and are not located across US.    Tom  _________________
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		| RyanL Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Wed 27 Mar, 2013 1:55 pm |  
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				| Check Whole Foods, Ive found them there last year and this year.  |  | 
	
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		| GT Citruholic
 
  
 
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				| Posted: Fri 29 Mar, 2013 12:49 am |  
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				| I picked up 5 fruits from Houston Central market last weekend. The last one had a single seed, so looks like, it is my turn to try growing Dekopon from a seed!     Of course, by the time it starts bearing fruits (if it, by a miracle,  germinates and won't die in next 6-9 years, or nothing will eat it), we may possibly have Sumo plants available from Home Depot or Walmart.     Anyway, the seed is soaking overnight and will go to a pot tomorrow. Wish me luck!    |  | 
	
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		| Millet Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 29 Mar, 2013 1:14 am |  
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				| Many of the Dekopon seed seem to germinate as albinos.  Past citrus research has shown that citrus seed treated with a mercury compound prevented albinism in citrus seed.   When I was a teenager, we used to shine coins to a silver polish with mercury. - Millet  |  | 
	
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		| Darkman Citruholic
 
  
 
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				| Posted: Fri 29 Mar, 2013 11:14 am |  
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				| I know this is repetitive but at least in Florida you can buy Dekopon at Home Depot.
 Hopefully they will be available in other states soon.
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 Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!
 
 Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable!
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		| Tom Citruholic
 
  
 
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				| Posted: Fri 29 Mar, 2013 12:43 pm |  
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				| Millet, we have many similar experiences. We also used mercury to shine silver coins many years ago. Early 1960's in junior high school I think . If memory is correct after about a day the mercury would leave the silver more dull than before.         Tom _________________
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