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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 590 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2012 12:51 pm |
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Esmark78 Moderator
Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Posts: 69 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Zone8
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Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2012 2:15 pm |
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Radoslav wrote: | Laaz wrote: | So how many different varieties are there of these blood mandarins? Maybe they are all the same with different names? |
So: Made in Italy
AMOA 8 - orange Moro x Avana - red outside and inside
OTA 9 - clementine Oroval x orange Tarocco - deep red outside and inside
TACLE - clementine Monreal x orange Tarocco (4x) - orange outside and orange with red marks inside
MANDARED - clementine di Nules (2x) x orange Tarocco (4x) - orange outside and red inside
ALKANTARA - clementine Oroval (2x) x arancio Tarocco (4x) - orange outside and orange with red marks inside. |
Of theese i heard that only AMOA8 and OTA9 is possible to get as ornamental plats as the other 3 are patented plants and you need to buy ALOT to get them, which is in no interest of the commercial nurseries. |
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2012 2:34 pm |
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Where would OTA9 be available? Amoa8 and Tacle are available from Oscar Tintori. _________________ - Marc
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Esmark78 Moderator
Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Posts: 69 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Zone8
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Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2012 2:57 pm |
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Hi Marc, remind me in spring and i will try to get you budwood |
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Tue 11 Dec, 2012 3:03 pm |
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Thanx for the link Mike ! |
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 2:50 pm |
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MarcV wrote: | I think I will ask Florealia!
Does anyone have pictures of OTA9? I couldn't find any... |
I wonder if Florealia is still in business... I emailed them and haven't got any response yet which is unusual. Also, their web site is completely gone now... _________________ - Marc
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Mon 17 Dec, 2012 6:58 pm |
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Now that's funny... I emailed the author of the article at freshplaza.it. I started by apologising for writing in English because I don't know any Italian. Within half an hour I received a reply from the author... in my own language! (Dutch)
The author gave me the same contact data as given in the article, but with the addition of an email address. I'll try to send them an email message tomorrow! _________________ - Marc
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Mon 17 Dec, 2012 7:01 pm |
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CRA did not reply me yet ... |
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MarcV Moderator
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Wed 19 Dec, 2012 12:21 pm |
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I found another reference with pictures and description of the striped citrus hybrid...
http://rps.entecra.it/pages/ResearchData/data/progetti/63_ALLEGATO_PROFLOMER.pdf
It's on page 39 of the PDF document. It is in Italian unfortunately, but for convenience, I already ran the text thru google translate...
Quote: | DESCRIPTION:
This hybrid diploid obtained by crossing (X Meyer Lemon Blood Orange Twin) has
showed morphological characteristics of ornamental value. The foliage is in fact
quite thick with thorns of shorter length, virtually absent in peripheral branches. the
leaves are medium to ovate, green in color very intense with typical ripple in
the upper part of the lamina, of leathery appearance with entire margin. The flowers are large, white
speckled with red anthocyanins, individually or in small groups. The fruiting is early and
abundant. The fruits are medium sized, spheroidal with apex slightly concave distal
and strong attachment to the stalk. The skin streaked cross deep red color
anthocyanic which alternate with areas of orange color, of high aesthetic effect, and is rich
pleasantly fragrant essential oils. The flesh is slightly acidic. It lends itself to the
production of plants in pots of different sizes in the form a 'bush' or wall. the substrate
cultivation must meet the requirements of porosity and softness, to prevent water stagnation and
asphyxial phenomena that favor the development of parasitic fungi and be rich in elements
nutrients. The grafting on vigorous rootstocks such as citrumelo, lemon and volkameriano
the Alemow and practice of fertigation allow to obtain plants in the form a
'bush' fruiting and foliage well developed already in the second year of cultivation. not
was assessed suitability for production of rooted plants. |
This plant would make a perfect christmas present! _________________ - Marc
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Wed 19 Dec, 2012 12:31 pm |
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...and I just received an email from CRA...
Quote: | Dear Sir,
I saw the picture attached. This is a hybrid obtained by crossing of lemon and a blood orange, very promising for potted citrus production.
This year, the ‘Council for agricultural research’ of Rome which it belongs our Center has applied this for a italian patent and, therefore,it is not yet available in italian nurseries.
AMOA8 instead was released from our Center about 10 years ago without patent and therefore you can freely buy it in more important sicilian ornamental Citrus nurseries .
Sincerely
Santo Recupero
(I Ricercatore)
CRA-Centro di Ricerca per l'Agrumicoltura e le Colture Mediterranee
C.so Savoia, 190
95024 Acireale (CT)
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Wed 19 Dec, 2012 12:47 pm |
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Well then, it sounds like you better get to work developing your own hybrids. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Radoslav Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 456 Location: Slovak Republic
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Posted: Wed 19 Dec, 2012 1:22 pm |
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Thanks for info Marc. |
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