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harveyc
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Posted: Sun 09 Oct, 2011 10:23 pm

My albino seedlings died. I'm hoping budwood might be available from CCPP in January.

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Cactusrequiem
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Posted: Wed 12 Oct, 2011 9:22 pm

Millet wrote:
Today I dug up a 3 year old Valencia that had been planted in the ground, and placed it in the compost pile.


Millet, I know this is from an old post, but if something like this happens again and it is a manageable and mailable size, please let me know!
Darren

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Posted: Thu 13 Oct, 2011 12:37 am

Darren, I tossed the Valencia, and planted a Sanbokan in it place. Then when Four Winds Growers finally shipped my Santa Teresa Feminello lemon. which I waited almost 3 years for them to finally ship it, I pulled the Sanbokan out of the ground and sent it to the compost pile, and planted the Santa Teresa in its place. I had another Sanbokan growing in a container so I really did not need a second one. Next time something like this happens I will certainly contact you. - Millet (430-)
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Laaz
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Posted: Thu 13 Oct, 2011 5:29 pm


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Posted: Sun 20 Nov, 2011 6:06 am

I'm glad to see that there is such a growing interest in making Dekopons a part of the citrus growing in the States.

When I lived in Japan my favorite citrus fruit was the Dekopon. By far, it's the best variety of mandarin/orange type of citrus that I have tasted. Not that I've tasted many of the exotic varieties that some of you here grow, but I feel confident that if you all taste a well grown Dekopon you'll agree it is superior to most of what is offered.

Surprised to see that Wikipedia now has an English version of a page dedicated to it; when I first searched for it years ago all wikipedia had was the Japanese page.

I remember having to pay a premium price for Dekopons in Japan, easily much more than the common mikan or the ponkan.

Also, my local store in Japan carried Dekopons with a synonym/trade name (?) of "Shiramei" (しらめい), not the "Shiranuhi" mentioned in the English wiki page.

Looking forward to the day when I can find Dekopons at my local farmer's market (I'm in southern California.)
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dauben
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Posted: Wed 23 Nov, 2011 12:01 am

SamWeiss wrote:
Looking forward to the day when I can find Dekopons at my local farmer's market (I'm in southern California.)


If you can find me some budwood, I'll start growing it for the Farmer's Market. Smile I'm in San Diego.

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Lemandarangequatelo
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Posted: Wed 28 Dec, 2011 7:58 am

The ebay clown is back selling Dekopon seeds, and this time it's the ultra-rare radioactively mutated Dekopon no less Laughing

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Japan-Dekopon-Mutated-Rare-Genre-CITRUS-5-Live-Seeds-Exclusive-Selling-Rights-/260922972507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc038995b

Do not buy these, posted for entertainment purposes only!
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harveyc
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Posted: Wed 28 Dec, 2011 1:10 pm

Lemandarangequatelo wrote:
The ebay clown is back selling Dekopon seeds, and this time it's the ultra-rare radioactively mutated Dekopon no less Laughing

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Japan-Dekopon-Mutated-Rare-Genre-CITRUS-5-Live-Seeds-Exclusive-Selling-Rights-/260922972507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc038995b

Do not buy these, posted for entertainment purposes only!


Thanks, it's quite interesting to see one fruit with two stems but otherwise appearing normal. One looks like a rabbits head, IMO.

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avinyard
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Posted: Wed 28 Dec, 2011 1:48 pm

With a rarety rate of 100 percent!
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MarcV
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Posted: Thu 29 Dec, 2011 6:17 am

This is clearly some bad photoshop work! The top left part of the fruit is identical to the top right part, it has the same wrinkles. Also the left part doesn't throw any shadow. A fruit like this could never exist anyway.

http://s1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb395/dorgon88/?action=view&current=strangecitrus7.jpg



I had to add a comment to his Photobucket album, so if the photo disappears it's my fault! Laughing

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Laaz
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Posted: Thu 29 Dec, 2011 11:51 am

ahgg_laugh You are correct.

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dauben
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Posted: Sat 31 Dec, 2011 12:24 am

MarcV wrote:
This is clearly some bad photoshop work! The top left part of the fruit is identical to the top right part, it has the same wrinkles. Also the left part doesn't throw any shadow. A fruit like this could never exist anyway.


Not only that, but the fruit has two stems. Maybe they can call it a siamese dekopon.

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RyanL
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Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2012 1:38 pm

With Dekopon season here , or soon to be here, seedling and budwood availability updates are in order please.
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harveyc
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Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2012 1:45 pm

I was told a year ago that it might be available in January 2013. I figure I'll ask for an update from CCCP in the summer.

If you really want it sooner, you could search out these folks. Wink
http://www.sumocitrus.com/meet_our_growers.aspx

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hoosierquilt
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Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2012 2:42 pm

No seedlings or budwood this year. I would be very surprised if the CCPP can procure budwood in 2013. When I was up at the Citrus Collection I asked Dr. Kahn about that. Interesting story behind their one Dekopon (they had two, but one died). The Griffith family, who own Suntreat and TreeSource, bought the rights to the legal Dekopon budwood as most of you know having read the article in the Los Angeles Times newspaper back this time last year:

http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-dekopon-20110217,0,3259483.story

And, contacting Suntreat's licensed growers will get you nowhere, as they are all under VERY strict growing contracts that they would never jeopardize by sharing budwood or selling trees (which none of them are in the business of providing, as they are all commercial orchard growers.) Citrus Treesource asked (actually told) Dr. Kahn that they had to destroy their Depokan tree. Dr. Kahn replied back, "Would you really want to destroy the only mature Dekopon tree in the state of California?" That was apparently enough to allow UCR to keep their lone Dekopon. UC Riverside is trying to source their own Dekopon budwood as we speak. I do not know if they will be able to use their own tree, or if they will go to outside sources, but it is in the works. But, don't hold your breath on budwood or trees/seedlings showing up soon. And yes, I did get to taste test the UC Riverside Dekopon and it is quite good, really almost as good as the glowing and probably somewhat exaggerated marketing reports. Sweet, tender, juicy, with a soild "tangerine" taste but also complex, not flat. Excellent acid to sugar ratio for me, not insipid at all, but not wincing in any way. Definitely worth a spot in your yard if you don't mind a higher maintenance tree. One always gets a wee bit concerned if the UC Riverside Citrus Variety Collection folks can't keep a citrus tree alive.

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