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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 2:07 pm |  
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		| MarcV Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 3:03 pm |  
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				|  	  | Radoslav wrote: |  	  | OTA 9 has really extremely red  fruit - both inside and outside, but it is small (average weight is 60 g) and with a lot of seeds, so it is not recommended for market of raw fruits. It is suitable for commercial juice production -  it is really extremly deep red, and also as ornamental plant. Released from "Cra-Istituto Sperimentale per lÂ’Agrumicoltura di Acireale"  in 2004.
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 Is this variety available anywhere?
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		| Radoslav Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 3:04 pm |  
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				|  	  | Laaz wrote: |  	  | So how many different varieties are there of these blood mandarins?  Maybe they are all the same with different names? | 
 
 So: Made in Italy
 
 AMOA 8 - orange Moro x Avana - red outside and inside
 OTA 9 - clementine Oroval x orange Tarocco - deep red outside and inside
 TACLE - clementine Monreal x orange Tarocco (4x) - orange outside and orange with red marks inside
 MANDARED - clementine di Nules (2x) x orange Tarocco (4x) - orange outside and red inside
 ALKANTARA -  clementine Oroval (2x) x arancio Tarocco (4x) - orange outside and orange with red marks inside.
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		| Sanguinello Gest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 3:05 pm |  
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				| I am sure it is ...
 At least in Sicily ... you just have to go there and ask around ...
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		| MarcV Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 3:28 pm |  
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				| I think I will ask Florealia!    
Does anyone have pictures of OTA9? I couldn't find any... _________________
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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 3:30 pm |  
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				| Rad and Sanguinello, I'll toss my hat into the seed ring, too.  If you can find any seeds of these varieties, I'd love to have some!  _________________
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		| Radoslav Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 3:53 pm |  
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				|  	  | MarcV wrote: |  	  |  	  | Radoslav wrote: |  	  | OTA 9 has really extremely red  fruit - both inside and outside, but it is small (average weight is 60 g) and with a lot of seeds, so it is not recommended for market of raw fruits. It is suitable for commercial juice production -  it is really extremly deep red, and also as ornamental plant. Released from "Cra-Istituto Sperimentale per lÂ’Agrumicoltura di Acireale"  in 2004.
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 Is this variety available anywhere?
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 AMOA 8 and OTA 9 are more for ornamental - non commercial purpose, so you can buy them only in special nurseries, selling plants in pots - more expensive.
 TACLE , MANDARED and ALKANTARA are normal commercial varieties for fruit producing farms, so you can buy them in many nurseries in south Italy selling trees  with roots in bags with soil - less expensive.
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		| Radoslav Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 4:09 pm |  
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				|  	  | hoosierquilt wrote: |  	  | Rad and Sanguinello, I'll toss my hat into the seed ring, too.  If you can find any seeds of these varieties, I'd love to have some! | 
 I already have AMOA as you know, so seeds will be available as soon as fruits ripe. I know someone who has TACLE, so I can ask him for seeds. MANDARED I want to buy on my next visit in Italy.
 
 > Marc,  fruit of OTA 9 looks like mini blood orange, I have picture in pdf document,  but I do not know how to extract it.
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		| Sanguinello Gest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 4:15 pm |  
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				| I surely would like to have as much exchange partners as possible !
 
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		| MarcV Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 4:19 pm |  
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				|  	  | Radoslav wrote: |  	  | Marc,  fruit of OTA 9 looks like mini blood orange, I have picture in pdf document,  but I do not know how to extract it.  | 
 
 Just upload the PDF!
  Or mail it to me, I might be able to extract it!  _________________
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		| citrange Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 4:41 pm |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | I have picture in pdf document, but I do not know how to extract it. | 
 Windows PC: In the pdf, zoom and centre picture on screen. Then press the 'PrintScrn' key. This copies complete screen image to clipboard. Then open any image editing program and paste using 'control+v' or by selecting 'paste' from file menu. Crop the image size back to the picture you want, and save. Simple!
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 4:58 pm |  
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 5:01 pm |  
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				| That doesn't really look like a small fruit to me!
Nice color!
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 5:06 pm |  
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				| Strange... for some reason I cannot open this document past page 20. My adobe reader tells me the document contains an error...   _________________
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		| Sanguinello Gest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				| Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 5:11 pm |  
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				| @ Marc 
Use FOXIT or SUMATRA for Pdfs !
 Much better and very small compared to Adobe.
 
 VERY CUTE fruit !!!
 It is really deep colored ...
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