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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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MarcV Moderator
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 2:13 pm |
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Like I wrote in my other thread, I have a couple of plants suffering from root rot. Especially my bergamot tree is in a very bad shape and I don't expect it to stay alive, although it is currently growing new shoots that look OK. Could a plant recover from root rot?
Anyway, if this one dies I'll have to get me a new one, I love bergamot citrus. If grafting would work I could just graft the plant onto another root stock... _________________ - Marc
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Radoslav Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 456 Location: Slovak Republic
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 3:49 pm |
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I have bad experience with root rot only with trees bought in supermarket imported from Sicily. My idea is, that the soil from there have to be infested.
And yes, if you want to save the variety, just graft it on new rootstock. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 4:11 pm |
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Depends on the rootstock, I have never seen it on trifoliata or it's hybrids. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 4:14 pm |
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This must be a special case then, as the rootstock is poncirus... _________________ - Marc
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 4:15 pm |
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And you have root rot? Any photos of it? _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 4:19 pm |
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Didn't make pictures of it, but it was very clear! _________________ - Marc
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 4:45 pm |
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What did you do, have it in standing water? _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 4:59 pm |
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Well... I found out that, while the top half soil in the container is dry, the bottom half is still soaking wet! Time for some better soil! _________________ - Marc
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 22 Jul, 2013 6:27 pm |
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Rookie! _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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elsedgwick Citruholic
Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 142 Location: Thomasville, GA (8b)/Tallahassee, Fl (9a microclimate)
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Posted: Tue 23 Jul, 2013 12:27 am |
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Root rot treatment is possible, and though I've heard that complete control is unlikely/impossible (although perhaps that was referring to orchard-scale control), my only experience with it is that treatment can work wonders. My girlfriend's parents have a tree, which was purchased and planted perhaps 5-7 years ago - Owari satsuma on Khuharksy-carrizo. The year it was purchased, as a three-gallon, four-foot plant, it bore four fruits. Since that time, it has produced exactly zero fruits and stayed the same size. Last summer, I took a look at it and noticed extensive gummosis, with new flushes wilting and dying shortly after emergence, so I asked her father how frequently he watered it. "Oh, it gets watered every day, sometimes twice a day."
I pruned all the dead wood and treated the tree with potassium salts of phosphorous acid (marketed as Organocide Plant Doctor, although it is not certified organic it apparently has extremely low toxicity, at least for mammals, fish, and birds), spraying the whole plant with dilute solution and providing more concentrated soil drench (still used very little of the stuff overall - perhaps an ounce or two?). Two weeks later, I transplanted the tree (discovering, in the process, that root rot had reduced the root system to the size of a two-gallon plant pot), re-treated with the phosphorous acid in the same manner, and then followed up with two doses of mycorhizzae (~ 2 teaspoons of Plant Success granules, worked into the soil around the tree) a week and a month later, respectively, and instructions not to water it except during droughts of over a week. Despite a wet and unusually cool summer here in N. Florida that should be perfect for breeding phytophthora, it's put on three flushes and is looking great, without the least sign of phytophthora. Best of all, it is finally bearing fruit again. |
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Tue 23 Jul, 2013 4:06 am |
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Laaz wrote: | Rookie! |
Fact is that some plants have sick roots and some have very well developed healthy roots. Both grow in the same type of container and in the same type of soil.
But even if the soil type is the same, I think the composition is not always identical. It appears that, when watering the plants, the water from some pots drains out quickly while other pots hold almost everything. _________________ - Marc
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MarcV Moderator
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1503 Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium
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Posted: Thu 01 Aug, 2013 9:38 am |
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My star ruby grapefruit plant is recovering nicely. Remember how it looked like this winter...
...this is what it looks like today!
Another bunch of flowers on my orange plants...
Salustiana:
Sanguinell i:
The seville seedlings that had the yellow leaves are apparently recovering...
Tahiti lime fruits...
Eustis limequat ripening...
Kara mandarins...
The bergamot is still doing reasonably well despite the root rot problem...
The etrog is an immensely vigorous plant. Had I known this before I wouldn't have gotten it in the first place...
This is what it looked like when I received it...
_________________ - Marc
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bussone Citruholic
Joined: 30 Apr 2013 Posts: 68 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
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Posted: Tue 03 Sep, 2013 2:33 am |
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MarcV wrote: | That looks great! But I'll always have a room problem... Our back yard is simply too small for a green house. It would simply fill up too much space...
But still... with the citruses outside, I now have a bunch of chili plants growing in the veranda. Both sweet and hot types. Not that I particularly love eating hot food. It's just for fun. It's fun trying to eat then raw. The hottest one I tried sofar is a golden cayenne (up to 85000 scoville units). Ate one completely without the seeds. Plenty hot, but not much taste... Last year I also tried growing bhut jolokia but that unfortunately didn't germinate.
In fact, chilis are like citrus... plenty of colors and varieties to try, but with the advantage of growing from seedling to fruit in just one year!
Chilis growing currently:
- Red Belgian heirloom (bought seeds in the States as this variety is unknown here in Belgium )
- Korean dark green (seeds also imported from the states)
- Royal black
- Cayenne thick
- Snack paprika (small orange sweet peppers meant to be eaten out of hand)
- Some bell pepper. This plant was supposed to be Madame Jeanette but turned out to be an ordinary bell pepper. Seeds must have been mixed up... |
Habaneros are pretty foolproof. The fruit are attractive, too. If you're into that sort of thing, they taste better than bhut jolokia's, too. |
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