the links before were italian

about the turkey, the willowleaf is called TURCA or TURCHESE in Italy :

http://www.cilibertoribera.it/indexCUCINA%20SICILIANA%204.htm
Scroll down the great sicilian recipes to ARANCE ALLA TURCA and find also a nice recipe there ...
More and more delicious reciped there ...
I get hungry ...

Enjoy !

This is NOT a willow leaf mandarin (Citrus deliciosa), not even close.

http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/willowleaf.html

It is a willowleaf ORANGE ...

Before you ask :

There are also willowleaf : Bitter Orange
Lemon
Lime
.. and your mentioned willowleaf Mandarin ...

Hah, you read my mind as I was reading the linked page you sent, where I saw "arance" everywhere, and not "mandarino", lol! Okay, so we're looking at a Willowleaf orange variety from Turkey. Nice Minestrone recipes btw, yum! I think I've gained 10 lbs. just reading the recipes on this site.

AH !

You never gain fat on a SOUP !
All water ..

Well, we talked about ABERS and VARIA ...
First Bitter Orange and second Sweet Orange ...

I tried to find a resource for you .. but all I found were in European Collections of Historic Citrus ...

I myself could get a plant ... BUT ...

You know about the fruit ?
It is REALLY ONLY ORNAMENTAL !!!

It is inside all dry and almost NO JUICE and it is the EXTREMEST BITTER TASTE of all CITRUS !!!

It is just used for rootstock with same superdwarfing effect as Flying Dragon .

Interesting, Sanguinello. Now, the fruit that Laaz is talking about is sweet, so are you thinking that what he has is the Varia, then, and not the Albers? If so, that would be the variety I'm after. I love the leaf, and it would be very cool to have something so unusual in my collection.

Yes, the sweet is Varia ... I could get it also.

Ok, I try to find it in USA for you, though I have little hope ...

Thank you, Sanguinello, that would be quite the coup to find this variety!

Varia is not available in the US as far as I know, although the origin of this tree may have been from seed brought in to the US. I don't remember who I got this from, but they had a website at the time I got it. So many of the FL sources that had rare citrus back in the day are now gone. Very sad.

It's the same here, Laaz. One of our largest rare citrus growers that was providing trees for both the public as well as for commercial growers - Monterey Bay Nursery - a wonderful, incredible nursery up near Watsonville, in the Monterey Bay area (east of Santa Cruz), has had to scale back his more rare varieties due to the increasing cost of restrictions in shipping. I have a few more unusual varieties from Luen, and will most likely not be able to get anything else from him at this point, unless I drive up there. And, that's an 8 hour drive one way, so likely not going to happen unless I'm up in that area for some reason. Beautiful country out there, just no reason to be in that area, sadly. I'd love to see his nursery. He grows all kinds of interesting things, they are a very large nursery.

http://montereybaynsy.com/

No chance !

Even very hard in europe ... only 1 resource ...

Some in russia .. but that is even worse ...

Laaz, you surely know where you sold that 2 grafts ... couldn´t you ask them for a bud ?

Yeah, I've seen a lot of places disappear. The thing is, most people don't realize that most citrus come true to type & will fruit in only a few years. When I planted my Ruby red grapefruit everyone said "You'll never get fruit from those"... Well 5 years later they were fruit with excellent fruit.

What I do when growing from seed, is I'll let the seedlings get to 2-3 ft tall & then take the best budstick & graft it to swingle. I then will use the seedling as a rootstock for something else. Most everything I've grown from seed fruited in 3-5 years this way. The grapefruit on the other hand is not grafted, I just let it do it's thing.

Good to know, Laaz. Not sure how Swingle will do in my soil, but I can certainly try C35 or C32. Very good to know. I have a Tahitian pummelo seedling (which will be very interesting to see just what it is, since pummelos are monoembryonic), that looks like it may put out some blossoms. It is about 2 years old.

well .. if that trees are in a state without restrictions, then she could get a budwood from there, right ?

A state that has no citrus industry.