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Laaz
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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 4:28 pm

It would probably come close to the parent, but not true.

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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 4:30 pm

Laaz wrote:
It would probably come close to the parent, but not true.


So pomelo is "daddy" for grapefruit , so who was the "grandfather" of them Very Happy
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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 4:35 pm

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The grapefruit (Citrus × paradisi) is a subtropical citrus tree known for its sour fruit, an 18th-century hybrid first bred in Barbados.[1] When found, it was named the "forbidden fruit";[2] and it has also been misidentified with the pomelo or shaddock (C. maxima), one of the parents of this hybrid, the other being sweet orange (C. × sinensis).

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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 4:42 pm


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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 4:43 pm

thanks for info

I always hear about a seed "to come true" , but is it a rule for this

I have a fruit tree from seed , everybody told me that I will get a wild fruit and nothing close to what the fruit was , and had a big surprise to see after 3 years that the fruit is even better than the fruit he came from.
The tree is much much healthier and disease resistant...and so on.

What if you get a higher quality fruit from a pomelo seed . Am I wrong?
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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 4:47 pm

Yes it is possible to get a tree that produces better fruit than the parent, but is not very likely.

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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 4:50 pm

Some of the common citrus that do not come true from seed are Meyer lemon, Ponderosa lemon, Pomelo, Persian lime and Clementine. There are other but I forget which ones at the moment.

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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 4:53 pm

If anyone can make such a list and put it in front and "stiick-it" to the forum it would very helpfull

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Posted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 7:12 pm

Two other varieties that do not come true from seed are Temple orange (tangor) and King mandarin.

One way to see if a variety will produce true from seed is just open the seed and see if there are more than one embryo.
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Posted: Mon 30 Apr, 2012 5:38 pm

Here is a list I attempted to gather some time ago from various internet sources that I believe to be authoritative. I don't believe it's 100% accurate, especially concerning kumquats.

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Posted: Mon 30 Apr, 2012 6:33 pm

I'm afraid I still don't know much about polyembrionic seeds. Somewhere I read that when the seed is polyembrionic, only one tree that came out of seed will give fruits just like mother's. Do I need to engraft that tree if I want to have quality fruits or not?
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Posted: Tue 01 May, 2012 12:33 pm

Since I red these posts to late, I already tossed the seeds in the trashcan. Very Happy
But nothing to fear because I have another grapefruit in the fridge. :p

The first lime also did not contain seed so I'm hoping for the best about the other 2. My mom did bring me some clementines from the market and these were full of good shaped seeds which I have already potted in minicontainers and the next months I'll be hoping for the best!

I didn't read about 'true' plants/seeds because I'm kinda busy the last couple of days so I cannot join that topic but I will soon! Wink

Something else that crossed my mind was this: if my seeds wood emerge as plants, do you need to treat them just as adult plants? I.e. cool winter period, a good citrus fertilizer,...?

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Posted: Tue 01 May, 2012 12:40 pm

No citrus don't need a cool winter.

If the limes you have are Tahiti limes (Bearss / Persian) they are seedless & your chances of finding a seed are slim to none.

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Posted: Tue 01 May, 2012 12:46 pm

Laaz wrote:
No citrus don't need a cool winter.

If the limes you have are Tahiti limes (Bearss / Persian) they are seedless & your chances of finding a seed are slim to none.


By cool I ment a temperature about 15°C instead of let's say, room temperature of about 20-21°C.

The fruit is almost never labelled in the supermarket. The orange I wanted to get seeds from was labelled as navel late but was seedless. The limes are just labelled...'lime' Laughing.

I guess I should get more fruit from the market instead of the supermarket. At least there I can ask if their seedless or not. Smile

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Posted: Tue 01 May, 2012 3:13 pm

The problem with citrus fruit on the market in Belgium is that they are often not labelled with the variety name. When one buys apples or pears, one asks for a specific variety, like Jonagold which is a very popular apple variety here.

Not so with citrus fruit. Oranges are either meant for "eating" (navels) or "juicing" (non navels). Lemons are just lemons and grapefruit are either "pink" or "yellow".

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