Citrus Growers Forum

Radoslav · Posted: Wed 15 May, 2013 5:49 am

From the article above (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3336134/ ), other OTA and OMO hybrids also show good coloration.
I am curious, which one of them is the so called "Rubino rosso" (or may be it is AMOA8 ?). Marc, you can ask Mr. from CRA

MarcV · Posted: Wed 15 May, 2013 2:14 pm

I'll let Santa... err... Santo reply to the previous question first! Laughing

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Millet · Posted: Wed 15 May, 2013 5:27 pm

So how does the three letter code names equate....clementine and Moro =(OMO), and clementine and Tarocco =(OTA)? With clementine and Moro one would think the code letter should be CMO (even then the "O" isn't even neede, and the other = CT. - Millet

MarcV · Posted: Wed 15 May, 2013 5:46 pm

The first 'O' is from 'Oroval' Clementine.

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igor.fogarasi · Posted: Wed 15 May, 2013 6:16 pm

Yeah, I agree, the naming convention is kind of weird... but we had a discussion on that earlier.

MarcV · Posted: Fri 17 May, 2013 7:33 am

Reply on my question to CRA about buying OTA9-budwood...

Quote:

I'm sorry to say no, but my research Centre has plans to patent OTA 9 next year.

Best regard
Santo Recupero
(I Ricercatore)
CRA-Centro di Ricerca per l'Agrumicoltura e le Colture Mediterranee
C.so Savoia, 190
95024 Acireale (CT)
tel. 095-7653122

So there's still hope! Wink

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MarcV · Posted: Fri 17 May, 2013 9:43 am

Radoslav wrote:

I am curious, which one of them is the so called "Rubino rosso" (or may be it is AMOA8 ?). Marc, you can ask Mr. from CRA

I found a nice image of the ruby clementine on the web. I mailed it to Mr. CRA with the question what variety it actually is! Wink

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Radoslav · Posted: Fri 17 May, 2013 10:23 am

MarcV wrote:

Reply on my question to CRA about buying OTA9-budwood...

Quote:

I'm sorry to say no, but my research Centre has plans to patent OTA 9 next year.

Best regard
Santo Recupero
(I Ricercatore)
CRA-Centro di Ricerca per l'Agrumicoltura e le Colture Mediterranee
C.so Savoia, 190
95024 Acireale (CT)
tel. 095-7653122

Strange, in one response he said, it is useless for food industry- small, many seeds and also for ornamental purpose - not hold on tree well , and then this?
But it also means, that they want to place it in market , so it will be available.

Millet · Posted: Fri 17 May, 2013 5:29 pm

Do the Italians plan to cross everything they can get their hands on with a blood orange, to create a world of common variety blood hybrid citrus ? A blood this and a blood that? - Millet

Radoslav · Posted: Sat 18 May, 2013 4:29 am

Millet wrote:

Do the Italians plan to cross everything they can get their hands on with a blood orange, to create a world of common variety blood hybrid citrus ? A blood this and a blood that? - Millet

I think, they are focusing to the things, in which they are the best. In citrus industry they cannot beat Spain in oranges and clementines production, but they have long tradition (since middle age) in production of ornamental citruses - this market is big in Europe, also lemons from Italy have big reputation and at last, they have the best condition (Sicily) for growing pigmented varieties.

MarcV · Posted: Mon 20 May, 2013 6:13 am

I got a reply from the CRA of Italy on my question about the Rubino Rosso clementine...

Santo Recupero wrote:

This is the commercialy name given by a nurseryman.
Certainly, Amoa 8 is the subject of the slide.

Kind regards

Santo Recupero

MarcV wrote:

On the ornamental market one can often find a variety called 'Clementina "Rubino Rosso"'. Can you tell me what variety this is exactly? My guess would be this is actually the AMOA8 hybrid...

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Radoslav · Posted: Mon 20 May, 2013 6:56 am

That's, what I thought from the beginning, looks like the mystery is solved.
Many thanks to Mr. Recupero (and Marc too), for his helping hand and willingness.

Scott_6B · Posted: Mon 20 May, 2013 7:51 am

Yes, thanks for the detective work. AMOA8 = Rubino Rosso clementine. It seemed unlikely that the Rubino Rosso just "appeared" into the commercial trade... it had to come from somewhere, and now we know.

Scott_6B · Posted: Tue 21 May, 2013 10:19 am

Does anyone have this yet from Flora Toskana? I wonder what variety of lemon the parent is.
Citrus limon ´Rosso` - Red Lemon

It seems to be the same as the ISA red lemon (at Freshplaza: http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail.asp?id=94624)

...also, could this mean that the striped Meyer Lemon x Blood Orange will be available soon???? http://www.freshplaza.it/photoalbum/PAViewPhoto.asp?ID=23858&AlbumID=538

It would be cool to eventually get seeds from both of these to the US... I wonder how seedy these new crosses are and what degree of polyembryony is present? I would think we should be OK with Blood Orange as one of the parents.

grad85 · Posted: Tue 21 May, 2013 1:21 pm

I have the Limon Rosso,not from Flora Toscana,but from another soure.

Some fruit i bumpt of the tree.

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