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Karoly
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Posted: Sat 13 Oct, 2012 6:57 am

Laaz wrote:
Yes, upload some photos of the fruit.


4 fruits 4 photos:







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Posted: Sat 13 Oct, 2012 9:05 am

They look identical to my Miyagawa. The fruit should be ready by now though, mine are long gone.

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Posted: Sat 13 Oct, 2012 9:29 am

Thanks Laaz! Wink
I'll label it as Miyagawa. Very Happy
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Posted: Sun 14 Oct, 2012 12:34 am

Laaz, question if I may. Why are some variagated citrus' fruit also variegated, but other variegated varieties do not produce variegated fruit? Just curious if variegation is expressed in more than one way? Dr. Manners, do you know??

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Posted: Sun 14 Oct, 2012 10:15 am

Patty that's a good question & maybe Dr. Manners can explain that.

Here is another one from Europe. Very cool citron.


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Posted: Sun 14 Oct, 2012 10:17 am

Also on my variegated sour orange from UCR, only some of the leaves & fruit are variegated.

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Posted: Sun 14 Oct, 2012 1:20 pm

Interesting, Laaz. I wonder if there are different ways variegation can be expressed. I see some subtle differences in your various variegated cultivars, so wondering if maybe there is more than one way variegation can occur, and thus that difference might explain why some fruit is variegated, and other variegated cultivars will never have variegated fruit. I wonder if there is anything written about citrus variegation out there? Possibly, just not sure where to search or how to search to find it. Being a nurse, having a science background, I find this very interesting.

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Posted: Sun 14 Oct, 2012 4:34 pm

You can find (nearly) everything in the "Citrus industry".
Make a search we already spoke about variegation.
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Posted: Sun 14 Oct, 2012 5:27 pm

Sylvain, do you mean Florida's "Citrus Industry" magazine? It may have that information. Somewhere. But, I don't see a Search feature, so no way to find the info, short of looking through every past issue?

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Posted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 12:34 am

"The Citrus Industry" is a four volume set published in 1948. Written by Batchelor and Webber with the collaboration of 14 or so other professionals. Many people regard the 4 book set as the Bible of Citrus. On rare occasions, they can be found on the Internet from rare book dealers such a Abe's Books, where I found two of the volumes. When found the price is usually quite high. By diligent inquiring I was able to finally purchase all four volumes some time back. - Millet 91
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Posted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 1:04 am

Oh gosh, thanks, Millet. I think somehow I have one of the volumes in electronic format. I'd completely forgotten about this set of I'd love to find the set, I'll have to start watching for it. I did read one of your very well-written descriptions on another forum about variegation, Millet, and that was quite helpful. I just would like to read about it in detail. I'll struggle to get through the technical language, but definitely worth trying to acquire, no doubt.

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Posted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 5:11 am

By the way, there is an online edition of this book (its 1st, 2nd and 5th Volume), hosted on UCR website.

http://websites.lib.ucr.edu/agnic/webber/

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Posted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 5:12 am

Patty, I made the search for you Smile :
link

Here is an interesting experiment made by Terry:
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Here is the Citrus industry quote:
http://lib.ucr.edu/agnic/webber/Vol2/Chapter2_5.htm#chimeras
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Posted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 8:52 am

But none of this explains why the foliage is variegated, but not the fruit.

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Posted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 9:08 am

It could be that the rind is made of two layers and the variegation is in the third. Just a supposition.
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