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valenciaguy
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Posted: Wed 14 Mar, 2007 10:22 am

That is great Gina, good luck with all the grafts.

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Posted: Wed 14 Mar, 2007 10:37 am

Glad you are successful with your grafts Gina.
Is it not great feeling?
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Posted: Wed 14 Mar, 2007 4:09 pm

here is my Algerian Clementine graft...


Chronja graft.....


I am sooo excited!!! I guess they know spring is almost here.. weather sure is nice here right now..
I will post more as they grow and as more start to grow..
Thanks for all the support and well wishes!! I was about to give up on them ever doing any thing..

Gina *BabyBlue*

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Posted: Mon 19 Mar, 2007 1:36 am

I checked the Persimmon at my mom's yesterday.. I scratched the graft with my finger nail and it is still green!!!
I will go out and check them every week end till something happens..

Gina *BabyBlue*

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Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 4:45 pm

here are some sour orange cuttings I'm trying to root.. I don't 100% know that it is sour orange.. I know that it is what my Eureka Lemon is grafted on.. The leaves do not look like rough lemon and they are not Tri leaf..



Here is the plum graft I did a week and half ago.. It's growing it's growing!!!


Here is the peach.. shows a little sign of new growth.. I did have it in the fridge so it is dormant about a week or two behind the rest of the tree..



This shows the flowers and new growth on the rest of the tree..


I couldn't get any decent pics of the apple graft.. but not much new growth on it..
I will go out to check on mom's persimmons this week end.. I will try and remember to get pics if there is any thing interesting to report.. it will be two weeks and I am hopeful there will be signs of new growth to report..

Gina *BabyBlue*

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Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 5:08 pm

Gina, perrsimmon grafts usually takes a long time to sprout. Usually when you think they're dead, then they will sprout.
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Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 7:04 pm

Gina what kind of grafts did you use on your peach?

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Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 9:45 pm

They are all whip/tongue.
I used rubber bands wrapped around the graft then the grafting tape over that..
I was truly amazed how the rubber band firmed up the graft..
the only other time I have ever used whip/tongue graft I didn't use the rubber band and the graft kept falling apart.. no matter how tight I tried to wrap it with my grafting tape it would not stay.. That was almost a yr ago.. and after finding out about the rubber band.. this seems to be working great!! at least they aren't dead already like the last time I tried whip/tongue..
The first few (apple and peach) did not go real smooth.. I wish I had practiced a bit before jumping in to it.. but by the time I got to the Persimmon I wasn't as clumsy.. I probably lost 6 inches in recutting the apple and peach till I got the cut just right..
Gina *BabyBlue*

I just happen to think you might be talking variaty.. I honestly don't remeber.. I need to go look where I got them and write..

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Posted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007 12:11 pm

Gina, as to your persimmon grafting, bark grafting would have been my number 1 choice. Never failed on that one. Anyway as your grafted persimmon starts to wake-up, the aftercare is very important. You will have to be super-vigilant with your persimmon grafts from this day until the summer. You will have to check daily and rub-off any growing leaves or cut off any stems branching out from within 6-10 inches below the graft union. This is your after-care technique, otherwise, the persimmon will divert the juices away from the "injured" or grafted part into the growing stems below it, then your grafted scionwood will slowly die-off. But if you continue to be vigilant and rub-off any growth below the graft union, the persimmon will be forced to send the supplies directly up, insuring success. If you can't be there daily, then tell your Mom or other friends to check up on it.

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Posted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007 1:12 pm

JoeReal wrote:
Gina, as to your persimmon grafting, bark grafting would have been my number 1 choice. Never failed on that one. Anyway as your grafted persimmon starts to wake-up, the aftercare is very important. You will have to be super-vigilant with your persimmon grafts from this day until the summer. You will have to check daily and rub-off any growing leaves or cut off any stems branching out from within 6-10 inches below the graft union. This is your after-care technique, otherwise, the persimmon will divert the juices away from the "injured" or grafted part into the growing stems below it, then your grafted scionwood will slowly die-off. But if you continue to be vigilant and rub-off any growth below the graft union, the persimmon will be forced to send the supplies directly up, insuring success. If you can't be there daily, then tell your Mom or other friends to check up on it.

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Joe:
I assume this is true also on any other plants not only true to persimmons.
I am practicing your way to my santa rosa plum which I grafted various European plums we got from the scion exchange last February. I am stripping all the new growth to the stems I grafted to.
You ought to see how they have grown. Some have blossomed already but I removed each one of the flowers for vegetative growth. I grafted them on 2/29/07 and some of them have grown over 6 inches.
As for the persimmons you gave me, every day I checked and I believe they are taking real good. I can see some signs of growing although very minute buds yet.
I also budded a few persimmons that we got from the scion exchange at the end of winter same date 2/29/07 and I can see some growth, yellow kind of bud protrudng at the tip of the buds about 1/8 of an inch, they are yellow but a good sign they are taking. I also did bark graft to all of them including my plums.
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Posted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007 1:30 pm

Benny, it is true that it helps most species, but I strongly emphasized persimmons because it really needed the aftercare based on experiences.

With plums, apples and apricots I don't need to do that aftercare. In fact I allow fruits to grow just below the grafted plums. They'll grow strong anyway. Only if the stems below them grow faster than the grafts, then it is off with their heads, LOL!
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Posted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007 2:51 pm

Thanks for an important info Joe.
I always follow your advice to the letter including my bananas.
Oh, the bananas you gave are the most active in growth.
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Posted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007 4:42 pm

Persimmons here are still dormant-- even the ones in the woods.

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Posted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007 4:53 pm

Thanks for the tip Joe!!! My dad was just over and I passed this info on to him.
I think I will try bark grafting on one of my mom's cherry trees.. I will review your post on it.. I had thought about it but was afraid my skills are not up to that yet.. but I will give it a shot on something that it won't matter if I mess it up..

Gina *BabyBlue*

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Posted: Fri 23 Mar, 2007 7:10 pm

I very much enjoyed those photos, Thanks Gina!!

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