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		| Skeeter Moderator
 
  
 
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 Location: Pensacola, FL zone 9
 
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				| Posted: Wed 14 Mar, 2007 11:44 pm |  
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				| Impressive setup there Benny-- are all of your bananas in containers?  _________________
 Skeet
 
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		| bencelest Citruholic
 
  
  
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 Location: Salinas, California
 
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				| Posted: Thu 15 Mar, 2007 3:11 am |  
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				| Skeet:
 
They all were until they outgrew the pots they were planted on. I started on a 3 gallon pot until 7 1/2 gallon to 25 gallon wine barrel.
 
If you will notice the date that I stated and those pictures were taken on 2004. That's when I started growing bananas. I got them from a customer while I was trouble shooting electrical problem in her house. They are unknown variety. But I have a few tha I bought and some were given to me.
 
I got them to grow tall so when they outgrew the pot last year, I transferred them to the ground. And they really took off. Still I had not seen any flowers. I concluded that they are not fruiting bananas. I noticed that none of the bananas in my customer's yard had no flowers also.
 
So to be sure, I bought some that will surely bear fruit of known variety.
 
And it is true that if you just can put cover the  top and sides  of your banana house  like a covered patio, you won't loose any leaves. They will stay green during the winter.
 
3 15  07  California gold
   
Santa rosa plum
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		| bencelest Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Wed 28 Mar, 2007 7:07 pm |  
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				| Something came up from the banana corm- a teeny weeny pup!
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		| bencelest Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 05 Apr, 2007 9:10 pm |  
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				| After I was gone for 4 days, here's how my calif gold looked like
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		| Ohiojay Citruholic
 
  
 
 Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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 Location: Columbus, OH
 
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				| Posted: Fri 06 Apr, 2007 9:23 am |  
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				| Very impressive plants.  I'm hoping my NamWah will fruit this year.  I noticed that you covered your structure in plastic in the December pics.  How'd that work out for you?  I bet that was fun handling all that plastic!!
 Anyway...I wanted to ask you guys about the leaves of my bananas bronzing/yellowing.  I noticed in a couple of the pics, some of the leaves looked the same.  I do have a spider mite issue I'm working on but they are not at infestation levels.  I continuously spray down the plants with a soap/oil mix or just water straight from the hose.  Are the mites causing this or could there be another problem I'm not aware of?  I should probably cut off the lower leaves and dispose of them.  That would get rid of some of the mites too!  It would also provide more light for the pups coming up.  Any thoughts?  Thanks!
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		| bencelest Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Sat 07 Apr, 2007 3:02 am |  
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				| Ohiojay:
The plastic help them some but not totally because the sides were still open. I still had some canopy leaves wilted but mostly those new tener leaves. My plants were caught in the middle of budding flowers and new growth. The sides did fair well though. The reason being I did not put Christmas lights to those that were affected.
 Regarding your namwah, I can not give you an answer since I am fairly new propagating this. But I am learning a lot.
 And thanks for the compliment.
 I am determine to have some fruit either this year or next.
 If I may say something, if your namwah will fruit soon, it is better to leave as much leaves as possible if you want a bigger flower. The leaves mfr the food for the fruit to grow and expand. But as you said you have problems some bugs eating the leaves. Try to identify the bugs. Post a pic if you can.
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		| bencelest Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Tue 24 Apr, 2007 12:20 pm |  
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				| New Banana Additions:
   
My California Gold pup is growing
   
And also Joe's Sweetheart
   
This is the fruit of the california gold but I don't think they are going to grow anymore because there are not enough leaves to sustain the fruit's growing needs.
   
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		| bencelest Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 3:13 pm |  
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				| Ahhhhh!
 
It's alive!
 
The first spear coming out of dwarf Brazilian Joe gave me. It's actually a matured banana about  5 1/2 feet in height.
 
How about it Joe, do you think I will see some flowers soon?
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		| JoeReal Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 3:53 pm |  
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				| Within 45 days there should be a bloom. And the bloom of Dwarf Brazilian is edible.  |  | 
	
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 3:54 pm |  
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				| Provided you cook them of course. There are several preparations, including making enchilada or salad.  |  | 
	
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		| bencelest Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 4:10 pm |  
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				| Oh! Wow!
 
That's the best news yet.
 
Oh, BTW I was looking for my past banana pictures and here's my bananas in the middle of winter pic taken Dec 4 2004 and they were in my patio just enclosed with plastics. 
   
I did not protect my plants whatsoever. I just let them grew au naturel.
 
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		| karpes Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 4:13 pm |  
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				| The description that Skeeter gave for his banana tree is exactly the same as the trees that I have growing in my back yard. After looking through the multitude of bananas out there I suspect that I will never know the identity. I think that I just may have to try some of those dwarf Orinoco plants. 
I wonder how platino bananas  would do in Zone 9?  When I lived in Venezuela we ate them all the time. They really are very good if prepared properly.
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		| JoeReal Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 4:19 pm |  
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				| Karl, just try them. I am in zone 9 and have consistent harvests and we can sometimes get colder than you, and the same with your case, other years you can get colder than us.
 Here's a listing that are proven to work from the most cold hardy to the least but should bear fruits if the timing is right:
 California Gold
 Thousand Fingers
 Monkey Fingers
 Orinoco
 Brazilian
 Golden Rhinohorn
 Dwarf Orinoco
 Dwarf Brazilian
 Misi Luki
 Mysore
 Namwah
 Rajah Puri
 Manzano
 Ice Cream
 Gold Finger
 Dwarf Namwah
 Sweetheart (FHIA 3)
 Namwah Pearl
 Praying Hands
 Saba
 Cardaba
 Williams
 Belle
 Valery
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		| bencelest Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 6:54 pm |  
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				| Where is the dwarf cavendish fall in what category?
How cold hardy are they?
 Can they be compared to as cold hardy as Key lime?
 Or Cerimoya? Or Papaya or mango?
 If not, is there any chance that they may grow here in Salinas?
 I am planning to put it on a half wine barrel and if I have to protect it from the winter cold inside my patio.
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				| Posted: Thu 26 Apr, 2007 7:37 pm |  
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				| Expect it to die to the ground from time to time every winter but it will always grow back from the ground. If you plan to protect it like you said, there is a chance for Dwarf Cavendish to bear fruit, but don't expect big bunches like the ones you see in the pictures from the folks down in Southern California.  |  | 
	
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