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babranch Citruholic
Joined: 06 Jan 2013 Posts: 42 Location: Manor, Georgia
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Posted: Tue 19 Feb, 2013 1:43 pm |
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We also got colder than what was expected. Saturday night we fell to 22 degrees and Sunday night we went to 21. Our forecasted temperature was 25 for the first night and 27 for the second. The area where I live is on the edge of a swamp basin, in sort of a micro climate, but after driving around looking at blueberry farms both nights, I can tell you that there wasn't much difference between our place and areas on higher ground. The high pressure stalled and brought cold.
I ran micro sprinklers on my twenty trees and made good clear ice, but also made a mess due to the volume of water. Water ran for 28 hours combined and totaled a little more than 17,000 gallons for both nights. There was a little damage from broken limbs, but no complete destruction of trees. |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Wed 20 Feb, 2013 12:42 am |
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babranch wrote: | I ran micro sprinklers on my twenty trees and made good clear ice, but also made a mess due to the volume of water. Water ran for 28 hours combined and totaled a little more than 17,000 gallons for both nights. |
Ouch. That's a lot of water. A little over twenty gallons per plant!
Does it really take that much? I'm guessing you were covering the whole tree? How many microsprinklers were you usng per tree? _________________ Charles in Pensacola
Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!
Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Wed 20 Feb, 2013 12:46 am |
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Sugar Land Dave wrote: | I thank the owner, admins, and members of this forum for its existence, that there is such a place to discuss ideas with a freedom similar to the Bill of Rights 1st amendment. With opposing ideas, new thought can grow.
Thanks to all,
David |
David I'm sure your product is patented , so why don't you give us full disclosure so we can discuss it. No smoke and mirrors. Show us the product and the ingredients. If you product delivers it will sale. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!
Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! |
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babranch Citruholic
Joined: 06 Jan 2013 Posts: 42 Location: Manor, Georgia
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Posted: Wed 20 Feb, 2013 3:00 am |
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Darkman,
I'm using the rain bird micro-quick sprays with the 120 degree deflector and a 30.6 gph nozzle. One per tree, covering the whole tree from about 4 feet away. I positioned them on the northwest side of the tree so that the wind would be pushing the water into the tree. I know it's probably overkill, but better safe than sorry. When the chance of freeze is over I'm switching the nozzles to a 12 gph nozzle and a 360 degree head.
One of my friends in Haines City, Florida sent me an email saying that his lowest temperature was 24.4.
David,
I'm also interested in how this product works. I work as a horticultural consultant and reading about your product sparks my interests. |
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Sugar Land Dave Citruholic
Joined: 08 Oct 2012 Posts: 119 Location: Sugar Land, TX Zone 9a
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Posted: Wed 20 Feb, 2013 4:08 am |
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Darkman wrote: | Sugar Land Dave wrote: | I thank the owner, admins, and members of this forum for its existence, that there is such a place to discuss ideas with a freedom similar to the Bill of Rights 1st amendment. With opposing ideas, new thought can grow.
Thanks to all,
David |
David I'm sure your product is patented , so why don't you give us full disclosure so we can discuss it. No smoke and mirrors. Show us the product and the ingredients. If you product delivers it will sale. |
I thank you for your interest, but I don't want to distract from the Op and his topic. If you could PM me with your interests or concerns, I would be happy to pm you back.
The point is that I am an awful gardener, but citrus forums inspired an interest in me and that lead to my little attempt to improve something. I'm not selling anything at this time and I don't want to give anyone here that impression. I'm happy to discuss more in an appropriate owner or admin approved thread or via PM. |
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Sugar Land Dave Citruholic
Joined: 08 Oct 2012 Posts: 119 Location: Sugar Land, TX Zone 9a
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Posted: Wed 20 Feb, 2013 4:25 am |
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babranch wrote: | Darkman,
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David,
I'm also interested in how this product works. I work as a horticultural consultant and reading about your product sparks my interests. |
Thank you for your kindness. I would appreciate the opportunity to exchange PM with you so as not to distract from the OP of this thread.
On topic, three years ago, I lost a Washington Navel Orange tree to a 12 degree night, but my other yard trees did well except for my kishu mandarin which almost died but has now come back to be a beautiful looking tree which is once again producing fruit. My meiwas kumquat was uncovered and didn't even lose a single leaf. Neither did my miho satsuma on that very cold night. The cara cara had a blanket over it and did well. The rio red had a sheet and it had no damage. I misted the plants that I took inside and they loved it. My wife hated it. Guess how that turned out. I learned much from that cold spell! |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Fri 22 Feb, 2013 11:18 am |
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We had a nasty frost early this week and it really devastated my Banana leaves but it did not appear to harm my citrus. It looks like I'll have quite a few blooms soon.
David,
Please start a thread to discuss your product if you are serious about getting it trialed! I doubt any one here will try it without some serious discussion and the ingredients being disclosed!!!!!
Way to much time, energy and money invested to risk it on uncertainties. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!
Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! |
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TRI Citruholic
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 399 Location: Homestead, FL Zone 10
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Posted: Sat 23 Feb, 2013 12:17 pm |
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Looks like we might have a very deep trough and cold air intrusion early March. The GFS shows the 0C line dipping all the way to south Florida! Could be the strongest cold front so far this winter. Still it is more than a
week away and could change.
I remember the March 1980 cold wave set all time record low temperatures for the month. I doubt this one will match the 1980 cold wave though. |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Sat 23 Feb, 2013 8:49 pm |
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TRI wrote: | Looks like we might have a very deep trough and cold air intrusion early March. The GFS shows the 0C line dipping all the way to south Florida! Could be the strongest cold front so far this winter. Still it is more than a
week away and could change.
I remember the March 1980 cold wave set all time record low temperatures for the month. I doubt this one will match the 1980 cold wave though. |
I sure hope we don't have anything significant. By then everything will be bloomed or blooming. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!
Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! |
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TRI Citruholic
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 399 Location: Homestead, FL Zone 10
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Posted: Sun 24 Feb, 2013 12:32 am |
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I do not think it will be too severe. I certainly hope not! It is not all that unusual to have a cool spell in early March. We have much higher sun angle this time of year and should help to modify the cold air and the day length is not as short this time of year compared to early winter. Looks like highs in the 50s and lows in the 30s for north Florida according to accuweather. Probably will not have such cool weather until next winter. You might wish for this cool spell when it is 95F and 70% humidity this summer! Your citrus plants should come out OK.
Remember it is not the low temperature that is most important. It is the duration of low temperatures that is most important and the durations should be short this time of year. |
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Sun 24 Feb, 2013 12:33 am |
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At this point, I'll take just about anything over this rain...supposed to keep going strong until Tuesday. Started Friday and six inches so far.
Most of my trees are almost in full bloom. My navel orange started 1st, Hamlin & Cara Cara are just behind. My Meyer and Owari have little pinheads now. Every tree with the exception of the Meyer is flush with new growth. The cara cara continues to struggle - presently is 2x more flowers than vegetation but is trying hard to push a flush.
Looking like it could be a great year for my trees with the exception of the cara cara. I think that I'll replace it with another budded on cleo or x-639.
Best,
Skinn30a _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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"but do please, Br'er Fox, don't fling me in dat brier-patch" |
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Sugar Land Dave Citruholic
Joined: 08 Oct 2012 Posts: 119 Location: Sugar Land, TX Zone 9a
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Posted: Sun 24 Feb, 2013 3:40 am |
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I still think that tree will thrive. Mine surprised me once. _________________
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Sun 03 Mar, 2013 12:11 am |
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_________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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"but do please, Br'er Fox, don't fling me in dat brier-patch" |
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j3u5a8n Citruholic
Joined: 04 Oct 2011 Posts: 223 Location: Imperial Valley, California
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Posted: Sun 03 Mar, 2013 12:15 am |
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Thats a pretty good idea. I might use it next year. _________________ Okay, I don't need any more trees. Look! Another tree for sale!!! |
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Sun 03 Mar, 2013 12:30 am |
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Thanks j3u5a8n! You can see the frames here on these pics of my Owari and Minneola... I used bolts and wing nuts as fasteners when building them so that I could add additional lengths of wood as the tree grows taller.
If you're going to build them, put them up soon after planting so that you don't have to dig holes through the trees root zone. This spring, I'll pull up the legs of the frames and replace them with sections of 2 inch PVC pipe. That way, I can pull the frames out of the ground when they are not needed and when I do, I'll just slide them into the PVC "sprockets" as opposed to digging new holes.
Best,
Skinn30a _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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"but do please, Br'er Fox, don't fling me in dat brier-patch" |
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