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Almost Ever-bearing persimmon tree.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Thu 03 Aug, 2006 10:56 pm

I have a multi-grafted persimmon, with about 2-dozen varieties on them.

I now have five batches of fruits sets, and that is just from one variety. To date, I have developing flowers, the fifth batch already! And I have four different sizes of fruits depending on when it bloomed. These are all from one cultivar, which is my base cultivar to where everything else was grafted. This is the Coffee Cake persimmon. None of the fruits have dropped, all sizes are holding on, come heat wave or chilly nights, at least no fruit drop yet on all of the cultivars. Last year I had 2 distinct batches of persimmons. The first batch were very good non-astringent when firm, but the second batch was astringent when firm, simply because it was not cross pollinated by another persimmon.

Have you had this seemingly ever-blooming episode with your persimmons?
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bencelest
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Posted: Thu 03 Aug, 2006 11:34 pm

I only have one kind -Fuyo; but 4 matured trees and all of them flower and ripe at the same time. Right now the size is about pingpong ball sizes.
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Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 12:14 am

I have an old Fuyu (25+ years old) and I have never had that happen. Some of the fruit did develop seed in 2004. That was the first time that has occurred. I suppose they were pollinated by something, but am not sure what.
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Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 12:34 am

When you have many different kinds of persimmons especially one one tree, you will always have seedy but flavorful persimmons.

Some varieties are pollination variant non-astringent as is the case of coffee cake, but was surprised to have 5 batches of blooms this year. It used to be only 2. Perhaps a result of mulit-grafting and the hormone signals criss-crossing?
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Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 12:35 am

Will try to get pics and post it here later. I hope there's still daylight when I get home tonight.
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:35 pm

First Batch of fruits
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:37 pm

2nd and third batches of fruits (plus sunscald on the top!)
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:38 pm

3rd batch of fruits. I never thin these out, yet they're quite big, perhaps 2.5" at this stage. No fruit drop yet.

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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:39 pm

3rd and 4th batches

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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:40 pm

2nd, 3rd, 4th batches

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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:40 pm

Last Week's Flowers 5th batch?

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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:41 pm

Current Flowers 6th batch?
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:41 pm

More 6th batch flowers:

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JoeReal
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:42 pm

Truly all these batches are from the same tree. All the above pictures taken together on the same day.


All together now.
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bencelest
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 4:25 pm

Oh, wow, I am breathess looking at those pictures and my heart beat doubled.
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