Citrus Growers Forum

Millet · Posted: Thu 24 Oct, 2013 5:40 pm

I must congratulate the people at Forum-up domaine headquarters. Through their spirited efforts they have managed to provide the public with the Inertnet's worst web domain. - Millet

ivica · Posted: Thu 24 Oct, 2013 6:09 pm

Well, they have big problems, that's for sure.
Anyone knowing some 'in-house' rumors ?
Someone want remove them from the net?

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Darkman · Posted: Thu 24 Oct, 2013 9:21 pm

Hey!

Let's give them some credit!!

Do you know how hard it must be to take a site down for that long? I can't think of anyone else that could have accomplished that!!!

BUT then of course they have been practicing a lot lately!!!!

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jcaldeira · Posted: Fri 25 Oct, 2013 4:58 am

This forum surely must move to a more reliable provider. If it doesn't, it will suffer as other forums soak up the activity related to good information on citrus.

John

MarcV · Posted: Fri 25 Oct, 2013 9:23 am

I think the time has come to put this forum in read only mode and set up a new one on another server...

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Darkman · Posted: Fri 25 Oct, 2013 9:51 am

MarcV wrote:

I think the time has come to put this forum in read only mode and set up a new one on another server...

Seeing as we have previously discussed about how ForumUp does not allow access/portability to the data, what is to prevent them from not allowing access when their revenue stream dries up. They would have little incentive to keep it available.

To me I just can't understand why they cannot cure this issue. It certainly must be effecting their profit margin and I thought that is the reason they provide the hosting is to make a profit. It certainly has nothing to do with Citrus. They act like they are a government bureaucracy and not a private enterprise. For us old timers we tolerate it because we know what lays underneath (certainly the most informative Citrus knowledge base anywhere) all this BS but for newbies they have no tolerance for the downtime and will seek whatever it is they want to know elsewhere.

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Sylvain · Posted: Fri 25 Oct, 2013 1:03 pm

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...the reason they provide the hosting is to make a profit... They act like they are a government bureaucracy and not a private enterprise.

It seems there is a confusion here. If their only goal is to make profit, they act like private enterprise! "Government bureaucracy" as you say is there to organize the society and to help people. At least it might be... Smile

Darkman · Posted: Fri 25 Oct, 2013 1:31 pm

Sylvain wrote:

Quote:

...the reason they provide the hosting is to make a profit... They act like they are a government bureaucracy and not a private enterprise.

It seems there is a confusion here. If their only goal is to make profit, they act like private enterprise! "Government bureaucracy" as you say is there to organize the society and to help people. At least it might be... Smile

Not sure I followed you.

I was saying that their level of performance which is bad would only be acceptable on a government level.

Private enterprise would be fixing the problem so they could make a profit

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Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!

Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable!

brianPA2 · Posted: Fri 25 Oct, 2013 10:19 pm

Darkman wrote:

Seeing as we have previously discussed about how ForumUp does not allow access/portability to the data, what is to prevent them from not allowing access when their revenue stream dries up. They would have little incentive to keep it available.
...

If you are guys are serious about moving the forum, I could likely write a http scraper to extract all the data and re-import it into a new hosting site, assuming you guys own the copyright to the data.

GT · Posted: Sun 27 Oct, 2013 12:20 am

Brian,

there are many software for site mirroring if this is what you meant. I was/am experimenting with some of them and this forum... planning to upload it on a file hosting site once done. The problem is that "forumdown" bans IPs if it sees more than one request coming from an IP in 10 seconds. At least this is my conclusion. This "feature" slows down mirroring a lot! Perhaps, you will figure it out somehow. I am not sure, however, who owns the rights for the forum data...

brianPA2 · Posted: Mon 28 Oct, 2013 4:01 pm

It should be possible using Perl scripts (w/ WWW::Mechanize) for sites that do not require javascript to function. It is simple to wait seconds/minutes between requests to avoid throttling, assuming that it isn't keeping track of total requests per IP per hour/day. If I get some free time I will try mirroring a few threads as a proof of concept.

GT · Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 1:25 am

Brian,

yes, setting an "idle time" is not hard. My download is running for over a week because of that and totaling in 7-8 GB so far... It is entirely possible that I am doing something completely wrong though, since I'm far from being an expert. Shocked

Good luck with your experiment!

MarcV · Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 7:05 am

I assume that what you're actually doing is something like download the forum pages for offline viewing. You would still need to turn that into a database of messages that can be used by other forum software.

Or am I seeing this wrong?

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Sylvain · Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 11:44 am

Hey, GT and Brian, You have broken everything with your scripts:

'Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /var/www/html/forumup.org/config/multiforums.functions.inc.php on line 65'

(It's a joke) Very Happy

Laaz · Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 5:13 pm

It's been working for me lately.

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