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MarcV
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Joined: 03 Mar 2010
Posts: 1485
Location: Schoten (Antwerp), Belgium

Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 5:17 pm

The last couple of days it's been working after a downtime of multiple days.
This afternoon (my local time) it was down again for some time...

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Laaz
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Joined: 12 Nov 2005
Posts: 5663
Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina

Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 5:21 pm

Hopefully they get the bugs worked out. I looked at moving to a different forum, but it would be a nightmare trying to transfer all the info that is here...

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MarcV
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Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 5:30 pm

A new forum would most probably mean starting from scratch...

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Laaz
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Joined: 12 Nov 2005
Posts: 5663
Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina

Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 5:51 pm

Exactly & losing 8 years of information...

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skinn30a
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Joined: 17 May 2012
Posts: 106
Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459

Posted: Wed 30 Oct, 2013 11:06 pm

I guess that sometimes you've got to sacrifice a little meat to save the wing. Nothing's perfect. It would be swell if the forum worked perfectly every time but I'm more than willing to put up with a little downtime every now and then. The quality and quantity of applicable information about our hobby can be found nowhere else....

Que 1988 chart topping power ballad song by American glam metal band Poison here.

Thanks Laaz and best,

Skinn30a

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brianPA2
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Joined: 09 Mar 2013
Posts: 119
Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania (6b)

Posted: Thu 31 Oct, 2013 1:36 pm

MarcV wrote:
I assume that what you're actually doing is something like download the forum pages for offline viewing. You would still need to turn that into a database of messages that can be used by other forum software.

Or am I seeing this wrong?



Should be possible to download all threads from this forum while automating the submission of identical messages in parallel to a new empty forum using a custom script, then send everybody over to the new one.
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GT
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Joined: 11 Jul 2010
Posts: 395
Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)

Posted: Fri 01 Nov, 2013 1:58 am

Marc,

you are right, this is what I am still trying to accomplish. I thought that in the worst-case scenario if the forum is down for good, we at least would have an off-line copy of all messages, although, most likely, with no pics. We definitely cannot loose 8 years of information. So far, 8 GB+ and, according to "httrack", it is not even 1/4 yet. I must be doing something very wrong - a bunch of html files cannot be so big.

Sylvain,

I cannot tell you how many times I saw that crappy message! Evil or Very Mad

Brian,

that would be great if possible...
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Sven_limoen
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Joined: 08 Apr 2011
Posts: 305
Location: Vlaams-Brabant, Belgium, Zone 8

Posted: Sun 03 Nov, 2013 11:57 am

Am I the only one who sees the continuous stream of spamaccounts? Smile
Just adding it up to the pile of forum problems Smile

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Laaz
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Joined: 12 Nov 2005
Posts: 5663
Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina

Posted: Sun 03 Nov, 2013 12:09 pm

I am always deleting spam accounts. Not much you can do to stop them, but I am always deleting them.

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Lemandarangequatelo
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Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Posts: 483
Location: UK

Posted: Tue 05 Nov, 2013 10:14 am

I've also made attempts (early last month) at downloading the forum with httrack for offline viewing. Like GT said you have to make sure you limit connections to 1 every 10 seconds otherwise you get banned for 24 hours by forumup for "flooding".

Other annoyances are the multiple duplicate pages, and the difference in the forum webpage names and file extensions when you are logged in vs logged out. You have to do 2 separate downloads for each case. The logged in scenario is much harder because the pages end in .php and the photo links are visible which increases the download size and time taken, and also the naming structure for the pages makes it more difficult to filter out the multiple duplicate pages. When you're logged out the pages end in .html and no photo links are visible which makes for a smaller and quicker download, and the page names make it easier to filter out the multiple duplicate pages.

I made what I think is a successful logged out download of the entire forum early last month, it took 3 days to complete the download. It was 1.89GB is size, and when compressed was only 550MB.

I attempted a logged in download of the site (which is why I appeared to be logged in 24/7, which some of you might have noticed and wondered why am I there 24/7 lol). It completed in 4 days but due to the difference in naming structure of the pages when logged in my filters were incorrect and I didn't get the entire site as planned, I only got the first page of each forum and up to 4 pages of each thread.

I'll tweak my settings and make some more attempts soon, I'm pretty confident I can get the whole site down, one version logged out with no pictures and another version logged in with pictures and all links visible. I can then make these available for download on a file sharing site and my httrack settings for anyone who wants to do their own download.

BrianPA2 is correct, once we have a downloaded offline version of the forum it shouldn't be difficult for someone with the know-how to convert it to the appropriate format in a new forum.
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turtleman
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Joined: 30 Nov 2008
Posts: 225
Location: Arizona

Posted: Mon 11 Nov, 2013 9:14 pm

moving data isnt that hard to do. "IF" you have access to the database for the forum.. IF you don't,, it would take about 7 days to move the topics on this forum to a new format..
With all the headaches that you've had with this,, I'm guessing that Forum-up is the same company that created the Affordable Healthcare Act Website?
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