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Laaz
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Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina

Posted: Wed 29 May, 2013 10:16 am

Shocked This is the earliest I have ever seen them show up. Most years it isn't until July.

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ivica
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Joined: 08 Jan 2007
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Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b

Posted: Wed 29 May, 2013 10:26 am

I saw those for the first time in my life last November,
on the late growth of W. Navel that was Rolling Eyes

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Location: Nahunta, Ga.

Posted: Wed 29 May, 2013 11:16 am

I have them already in southeast Georgia.
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Laaz
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Posted: Wed 29 May, 2013 11:36 am



And not! Laughing


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ivica
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Location: Sisak, Croatia, zone 7b

Posted: Wed 29 May, 2013 12:49 pm

I use nothing, but, well,
I'm far north enough to be far away from any major infestation. Very Happy

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eyeckr
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Joined: 21 Nov 2005
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Location: Virginia Beach, VA (zone 8a)

Posted: Wed 29 May, 2013 1:07 pm

I'm with ivica as I'm lucky enough to not ever see any leaf miners or get any leaf miner damage. Maybe we are too cold up here?
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adriano
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Joined: 24 Feb 2012
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Location: Zagreb, Croatia

Posted: Fri 07 Jun, 2013 2:51 pm

i confirm the earliest sightings. They are already invading my trees. They told me to use confidor, but this is strong insecticide, so i will just let the things going on without intervening. I only sometimes drop some coffee ground beneath the trees.

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DesertDance
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Joined: 10 Aug 2009
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Location: Hills of Hemet, CA, County Property

Posted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 7:03 pm

When you know me well, you will know I will protect my children at all costs! I use the best insecticide out there.

Got one better? Let me know!

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hoosierquilt
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Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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Location: Vista, California USA

Posted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 9:19 pm

Suzi, we here in S. California can expect to see CLM hit us usually end of June to mid-July. They were pretty much on time this year. We only have one cycle of CLM here, and we need to start treating about 2 to 4 weeks before we see their damage, to give the systemi Imidacloprid time to travel through the vascular system, and get to the new leaves. So, if you apply Imidacloprid (which is what is in Bayer Advanced Fruit & Citrus Insect Control) around the beginning of June, you should stay protected all season. I would then put down a second application in December, and you'll have year-round coverage not only for CLM but also for the ACP.

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Millet
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Posted: Mon 08 Jul, 2013 11:31 pm

Here in good old Colorado we are lucky in that we don't have leaf miners, nor do we have any type of citrus diseases what so ever. The only thing that affects citrus here are three insects, aphids, scale, spider mtes which are very easy insects to control. Of the three insects, I haven't had spider mites in a long long time. - Millet
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Darkman
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Joined: 20 Jul 2010
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Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a

Posted: Tue 09 Jul, 2013 3:49 am

I applied Imidacloprid around the first of March and it was supposed to last all season but I started seeing CLM damage about two weeks ago. I'm debating a second application now. I guess I should go ahead. Maybe I can protect the third flush.

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elsedgwick
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Joined: 26 May 2012
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Location: Thomasville, GA (8b)/Tallahassee, Fl (9a microclimate)

Posted: Tue 09 Jul, 2013 10:04 am

In Tallahassee, Fl, I first noticed them about three or four weeks ago. They were quite evident at first, but numbers seem to have tapered since then. I was wondering if the heavy rains had made it difficult for them. Interestingly, in Thomasville, Ga, (just under thirty miles, as the crow flies), they seemed to first appear this past week. Perhaps the differences in timing are a function of the abundance of citrus in proximity - in Thomasville, the next closest citrus is a number of miles; in Tallahassee, there are trees next door.
There is an article with a bit on phenology here:
http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8321.pdf.
Another interesting factoid: 1/2 of worldwide CLM mortality is due to parasitoids.
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Darkman
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Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a

Posted: Tue 09 Jul, 2013 2:20 pm

I wonder what if any Parasitoids I have here.

Can these be purchased like Ladybugs and Praying Mantis egg masses?

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adriano
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Joined: 24 Feb 2012
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Location: Zagreb, Croatia

Posted: Tue 09 Jul, 2013 3:52 pm

I heard that, if you buy 1000 ladybugs, 900 fly away to your neighbor. it is to much waste. This year i am experimenting with combination of yellow sticky boards and coffee ground, but i think it is all in vain. There is no help against this insect

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Joined: 11 Jul 2010
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Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)

Posted: Wed 10 Jul, 2013 1:19 am

Folks,

I should confess: this is my third year using Imidacloprid per label with no apparent effect on clm. I applied it in March and noticed the first damage in late April. Too much for "season-long control"! So, I am back with spinosad spraying each and every flush.

Just my 5 cents of observations... but I am really glad that Imidacloprid works for someone.
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