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Mark_T
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Posted: Tue 15 Nov, 2011 11:12 pm

Laaz, does the Abers come true from seed?
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Posted: Wed 16 Nov, 2011 2:06 am

Don't know, I've never started any from seed.

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Posted: Thu 19 Apr, 2012 12:58 pm

OK, now I'm not sure on this variety. I talked with Gene Lester & his Abers does not have these leaves. I have never tasted the fruit as I always thought the fruit was sour orange... I got my budwood from someone in north FL in 2004 or 2005 as Abers. I guess I will have to test the fruit this year & see how they taste. I have been growing this as a ornamental as I don't like sour oranges. Confused

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Posted: Thu 03 May, 2012 4:30 am

I still have to wait for the first crop, but everyone, who has this plant and tasted the fruits say, that they are sweet small oranges.
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Posted: Thu 03 May, 2012 12:42 pm

The Citrus aurantium var. salicifolia aka "willowleaf" looks different to me than the Abers/Varia as some of its leaves are wider and more wavy. Although it could be a result of its growing conditions at Grad85's place.

The first year my Abers fruited I didn't eat the fruit either. The next year I sampled one around December and it tasted like a sour orange. This past year I left one on until about March and was pleasantly surprised with the taste. It had a very agreeable, mild orange flavor with no bitter or sour at all. One thing is for sure, these trees try to bear very heavily. I always have to pick off fruit so it doesn't stress out my small tree.

@Mark_T I did save some seeds and will plant some tonight to see if they come up with the characteristic leaf shape. I might be able to share a couple depending on how many I actually saved.
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Posted: Thu 03 May, 2012 1:02 pm

They do come up from seed with the long narrow leaves. I planted some a few years ago, don't remember what I did with the seedlings. This is definitely not the willow leaf. My tree has a bunch of fruit this year, so I will try some.

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Posted: Thu 03 May, 2012 3:01 pm

I am sure, that Varia is not Citrus aurantium var. salicifolia aka "willowleaf" and I do not have good pictures of true Abers to compare with Varia. But Mr. Cernoch has Abers in his catalogue under citrus aurantium and Varia under citrus sinensis, so I think, he knows what he is selling. If true Abers has identical leaves with Varia (I do not know), and has sour fruits, it could be a seedling of Varia.
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Posted: Thu 03 May, 2012 10:59 pm

eyeckr wrote:
The Citrus aurantium var. salicifolia aka "willowleaf" looks different to me than the Abers/Varia as some of its leaves are wider and more wavy. Although it could be a result of its growing conditions at Grad85's place.

The first year my Abers fruited I didn't eat the fruit either. The next year I sampled one around December and it tasted like a sour orange. This past year I left one on until about March and was pleasantly surprised with the taste. It had a very agreeable, mild orange flavor with no bitter or sour at all. One thing is for sure, these trees try to bear very heavily. I always have to pick off fruit so it doesn't stress out my small tree.

@Mark_T I did save some seeds and will plant some tonight to see if they come up with the characteristic leaf shape. I might be able to share a couple depending on how many I actually saved.


Thanks! Let me know.
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Posted: Sat 05 May, 2012 5:32 pm

In Riverside they say it is a citrus aurantium from Bittersweet group.
The taste is bitter and sweet same time and if fully ripe can be a high sugar, which may taste to some well for there is also a lack of acidity.
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