OK Joe. Thanks. I am going to do an experiment of my own. Since they are growing side by side ( 5 feet away from each other and they are at about the same size and age) I am going to let one fruited and the other one no and see how much bigger the other one can get. That way I can taste the fruit also and see how they adopt to (my) this climate.

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Here's a T-bud that was extremely slow growing. It was T-bud on 7/4/2004. The bud was green but that's all-no growth; and last month when I noticed that it was not growing, I cut the branch of the caracara right after the T-bud and the branch before it. It just now starting to grow. The scion is a Red Navel. To tell you the truth I forgot all about it until I saw the tag hidden between the branches while I was removing all of the fruit big and small.

And here's an extremely fast one but not citrus. A green gage plum tongue and whipped grafted on Satsuma plum on 2/22/2006 and in two months it fruited and flowered already. Notice the graft union just below the leaves?

These citrus are all I got left in pots. The bigger ones were transferred either to a wine barrel or to the ground thorughout the yard. You will also noticed that there are no single fruit on them. I clipped them all large and small 2 weeks prior to this picture was taken. Except for a few plants like my calamondin, one of my satsumas and the Bearss lime. The picture was taken on 4/6/06

And here’s how she looked like on April 6, 2006. It probably grew 3 feet in height. I tell you they even grow during Winter. And you should see her now-lots of flowers and fruits.

And here's some of her fruit hiding behind her leaves:

After my experience with my Washington navel I have second thought whether it is a mistake trimming my citrus to grow it the way I want it to grow and also removing all the fruits to almost all of my citrus. Maybe I should have just let nature takes its course just as I 'preach' to others.
Now I was not happy the way my citrus looked like. They don't look normal to me anymore. They grew smaller I think and not natural.

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Dream Navel T-budded to a mature Eureka Lemon

I was looking at my photobucket album and I saw this pictures . I don’t think I have uploaded this before.


and another one:



and another:



It sure nice to reminesce.

Ah...soh....! ( expression when I was in Japan during my Navy days) .
Now I know. This green gage is fast acting.
I have a picture of this green gage last year that almost overwhilmed me- Grew so fast and fruited the same year; I was able to taste the fruit. The branch almost broke because it overextended itself. I had to support it.
The green gage is the light green leaves on the center and was grafted to a yellow peach.

Benny, are you sure this is the real green gage? The leaves don't seem to be like one.

There are two major kinds of green gages floating about, thanks to the marketing department of California Growers.

The REAL green gages are European plums and they grow very slow no matter where you graft them. They're even slower if you graft them over to Japanese plums. Of the European green gages, the best tasting (according to people I talked to, and myself too) are Bavay green gage. Other types that are also good and delicious are Cambridge Gage, General Hand Gage, Count Althan's, to name a few. There are more.

Now what I think you have is the ASIAN green gage, a named applied by packagers and marketers who are selling green-colored Japanese plum. There's a couple of them, just couldn't recall from my head at the moment, that are dark green when ripe. I think the Flavor Queen pluot descended from one of these Asian "green gages". The asian green gages grow like crazy when grafted to other plums and would seem to take over them.

Honestly, I've been looking for Asian Green Gages for two years, and I didn't realize you had them. All I thought you have the real Green gages, which are European types which is the one distributed at CRFG exchange. I'll be contacting you via email and remind you to bring me scionwood of your asian green gage come next January at the CRFG exchange. I will take note that you have such a plum. Or perhaps if we can meet before then, I will ask you to get me some branches. Now is not the recommended time to ship them via mail, even if overnight because it is summer time temperature already and they will die if not transported with a cooler.

Nice beautiful "edible forest" you have in there!

Joe:
You can have it whenever you want it Joe. Just tell me when.
Honestly I can't remember where I got this one. I don't have a tree for one thing. I got a branch and grafted it to my yellow peach and it grew so fast the branch almost shoot out next across to the other plant. I had to cut the branch right after I harvested the fruit. Since then I transplanted the mother tree to the ground and this green gage now behaves normally. This year though it has fewer fruits because I keep on clipping the branches to graft them to my other trees.
I'll post a picture of the fruit as soon as I can. It is as large as two marbles. When they ripe the color is just like the color of the newer leaves- light yellow green. I believe I got this from my sister's or maybe one of the local nurseries. But I am sure the tag is green gage. But that's all I know about it. I don't know any other.
But when I was living in the desert I remember I planted one of the same tree and I barely recollect now where I got the tree from. All I remember was the taste. Realy really good.

Now I remember. I bought the tree from my favorite nursery in San Brnardino.