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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 1:32 pm |
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Any of you guys have any experience with this cultivar? Im considering it as my early season mandarin but am having a hard time finding solid information about it, especially its cold tolerance.
Thanks and best,
Skinn30a _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 3:39 pm |
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It is NOT cold tolerant.
They grow it in hothouses in Japan. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 3:41 pm |
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As with most mandarins it should be hardy to at least 8b. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 3:52 pm |
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Well crud... I'm looking to get a full season of Mandarins and I was hoping to use this one as my Early. I read that Bonnie Childers recommends the Armstrong Early but I keep hearing disappointing review of it in my region.
Early: Shiranui or Armstrong Early
Mid: Owari or Silverhill
Late: Gold Nugget
It's important to me that my choices are very cold tolerant b/c I know that I'm going to get smoked by a cold snap one of these days.
Best,
Skinn30a _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 4:03 pm |
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Miyagawa is a excellent early season satsuma. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 4:23 pm |
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Sweet! Thanks Laaz! By "early", how much earlier are these than the Owari? _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 4:42 pm |
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Skinn, I would contact Stan at McKenzie Farms for the best early satsuma. There are some better choices than Armstrong Early. I'm growing Okitsu Wase and Miho Wase satsumas, which are both earlier than Owari. Ready in October, versus December for Owari. There is St. Anne satsuma, which is ripe in September that might be an option for you. Also LA Early. I think the jury is still out on the Dekopon on the east coast, as it is still very new. Here is Stan's web site:
http://mckenzie-farms.com/photo.htm
He is probably one of the best persons to comment on cold hardiness and quality for satsumas. _________________ Patty S.
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 4:48 pm |
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My Miyagawa is ready by mid Sept.
Stan can not ship to FL. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 5:26 pm |
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Yes, but Stan could give some suggestions about St. Anne or LA Early I think? Miyagawa is another very good cultivar, not quite as early as either of the above, but I think maybe a bit better tasting. Laaz, do you have either St. Anne or LA Early to compare? _________________ Patty S.
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 5:46 pm |
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I have both St. Anne & LA Early, both of which are ready around the same time as Miyagawa. Miyagawa is better than both. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 6:55 pm |
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The earliest (mature in September) mandarin (satsuma) that I know of is Xie Shan. Most everyone acclaims Xie Shan to be among the very best tasting citrus available. - Millet |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Fri 30 Nov, 2012 7:03 pm |
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I'm planning on grafting up some Xie Shan, Millet, based on your reports plus Phillip's in Ramona, CA, have convinced me to add this variety, so it's going to be one of my guinea pigs for my first citrus grafting. I have to decide what other varieties I want to order from CCPP this January as well. I have some rootstock on the way, so I want to try a few different cultivars that I don't have and can't get from any retailer. Xie Shan is top of the list. _________________ Patty S.
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Sat 01 Dec, 2012 1:02 am |
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It is really a GreenHOUSE !
I would live in it .. |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Sat 01 Dec, 2012 2:00 am |
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Oh my GOSH, Millet! That is spectacular. Can you imagine? I'd love to have that. And attached to the house. Heaven. One can only dream _________________ Patty S.
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