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TRI
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Posted: Fri 25 Feb, 2011 2:23 am

This is supposed to be a superior soft seed pomegranate. It has good cold tolerance and may be grown in zone 8A or maybe even zone 7, the seeds are soft and edible, it bears much much more fruit and is very prolific, the fruit resists splitting in humid weather and has more juice. Seems like a true winner and should be a huge success in the market. Finally a pomegranate fruit that will not split and the tree has good cold tolerance. This may be a great pomegranate for gulf coast region and Florida. It could probably be grown reliably in Dallas, Texas most years.


Anyone plant this pomegranate yet?
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Posted: Fri 25 Feb, 2011 2:42 am

We have about 300 of them all in #15 containers, their good sellers in our market and I've planted a number of them in front of the nursery here a few years ago.. I would not say the fruit won't split though..
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Posted: Fri 25 Feb, 2011 3:29 am

TRI wrote:
This is supposed to be a superior soft seed pomegranate. It has good cold tolerance and may be grown in zone 8A or maybe even zone 7, the seeds are soft and edible, it bears much much more fruit and is very prolific, the fruit resists splitting in humid weather and has more juice. Seems like a true winner and should be a huge success in the market. Finally a pomegranate fruit that will not split and the tree has good cold tolerance. This may be a great pomegranate for gulf coast region and Florida. It could probably be grown reliably in Dallas, Texas most years.


Anyone plant this pomegranate yet?


So who is marketing it in or near NW Florida? I'd probably plant four or five if they are affordable.

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Posted: Fri 25 Feb, 2011 5:59 am

I may plant one and test it out. This variety is much more resistant to splitting than most other pomegranates. I like citrus but want more diversity. There are so many more sub tropicals to grow other than citrus.
In my yard I have Ligustrums, Oleanders,loquats, Satsumas, Meyer lemons,bananas,and Feijoas. Earlier this year I planted a Big Jim loquat and tomorrow I will plant an LSU Purple Fig Tree. Oleander is probably the most toxic and deadly plant in the world if someone or some animal should eat the foilage. I notice something has been nibbling on the citrus plant leaves but there is no nibbling on Oleander leaves!
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Posted: Fri 25 Feb, 2011 3:54 pm

TRI wrote:
I may plant one and test it out. This variety is much more resistant to splitting than most other pomegranates. I like citrus but want more diversity. There are so many more sub tropicals to grow other than citrus.
In my yard I have Ligustrums, Oleanders,loquats, Satsumas, Meyer lemons,bananas,and Feijoas. Earlier this year I planted a Big Jim loquat and tomorrow I will plant an LSU Purple Fig Tree. Oleander is probably the most toxic and deadly plant in the world if someone or some animal should eat the foilage. I notice something has been nibbling on the citrus plant leaves but there is no nibbling on Oleander leaves!


While my plans are for twenty to thirty citrus I also will have figs, blueberries, blackberries, persimmons, plums, pomegranate, bananas, Paw paws, peach, quince, loquats, pears and more. The ones in bold I currently have some of.

I wonder if a spray of oleander tea would deter pest or just kill me when I eat the citrus? LOL Could be a good idea. I'm sure it isn't original maybe someone knows the answer.

EDIT: On March 19, 2011 I went to Just Friuts and Exotics and picked up 23 Citrus, 2 Plums, 2 Peaches and 1 Quince.
EDIT: In March of 2012 I purchased six Loquats for grafting.

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Posted: Fri 25 Feb, 2011 6:25 pm

Darkman wrote:
TRI wrote:
I may plant one and test it out. This variety is much more resistant to splitting than most other pomegranates. I like citrus but want more diversity. There are so many more sub tropicals to grow other than citrus.
In my yard I have Ligustrums, Oleanders,loquats, Satsumas, Meyer lemons,bananas,and Feijoas. Earlier this year I planted a Big Jim loquat and tomorrow I will plant an LSU Purple Fig Tree. Oleander is probably the most toxic and deadly plant in the world if someone or some animal should eat the foilage. I notice something has been nibbling on the citrus plant leaves but there is no nibbling on Oleander leaves!


While my plans are for twenty to thirty citrus I also will have figs, blueberries, blackberries, persimmons, plums, pomegranate, bananas, Paw paws, peach, loquats, pears and more. The ones in bold I currently have some of.

I wonder if a spray of oleander tea would deter pest or just kill me when I eat the citrus? LOL Could be a good idea. I'm sure it isn't original maybe someone knows the answer.



For me only a few citrus trees is enough. Three satsumas trees produced enough fruit for me and several other people. I still have citrus fruit in the refigerator from last years crop. The same will likely be true for figs. The downside with figs is that they do not keep long in storage but the LSU purple figs do not all ripen at the same time. This variety will keep producing figs from June to November or later. I would like to try persimmons also and maybe guavas with protection. This way you can harvest loquats in the spring, figs in summer and fall, persimmons and pomegranates in the fall, citrus in the fall and winter.
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Posted: Sat 26 Feb, 2011 12:42 am

Surprisingly, our oleander gets aphids 3-4 times a season. Guess, they are poison-resistant. Crying or Very sad so, I am not sure how effective that oleander tea would be. Sad
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Posted: Sat 19 Mar, 2011 10:34 pm

Picked up an Angel Red tree today. A local nursery of excellent standing carries them and insists they do well here in Zone 7. They have been sitting outside there and are already budding.

We'll see what happens. Cool
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Posted: Sun 20 Mar, 2011 7:11 am

Good luck Jacklord hopefully you will have a great harvest in a few years. Pomegranates have good nutritional value and very attractive in the landscape.
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Posted: Mon 21 Mar, 2011 4:46 pm

I went to Tallahassee with the intent of getting a Angel Red from Costco but they did not have any. I guess mail order is next.

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Posted: Mon 21 Mar, 2011 6:27 pm

Darkman wrote:
I went to Tallahassee with the intent of getting a Angel Red from Costco but they did not have any. I guess mail order is next.



I got mine from Cliftons Nursury online. This plant makes beautiful flowers and fruit even if the fruit splits. I planted one as a trial to see how the fruit withstands the hot humid climate here. I hope the fruit does not split which may be the biggest limitation to growing pomegranates here.
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Posted: Mon 21 Mar, 2011 6:29 pm

TRI wrote:
Good luck Jacklord hopefully you will have a great harvest in a few years. Pomegranates have good nutritional value and very attractive in the landscape.


Much thanks.
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Darkman
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Posted: Wed 23 Mar, 2011 3:22 am

TRI wrote:
Darkman wrote:
I went to Tallahassee with the intent of getting a Angel Red from Costco but they did not have any. I guess mail order is next.



I got mine from Cliftons Nursury online. This plant makes beautiful flowers and fruit even if the fruit splits. I planted one as a trial to see how the fruit withstands the hot humid climate here. I hope the fruit does not split which may be the biggest limitation to growing pomegranates here.


Thanks. I hope to get one this year. I have a Wonderful but it isn't old enough to fruit maybe this year.

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Posted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 12:18 am

Darkman, my pomegranate is tiny also. It is only about three feet tall and will be a while before it bears fruit. Pomegranate only bears fruit on two year old wood unlike citrus so this is a long term investment. I have never tasted a pomegranate before.


I worry someone or some animal may eat the oleander and die. Probably not a good idea to plant oleander if your have children or pets.
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Posted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 2:50 pm

Oleander is one of the most poisonous plants in the world and contains numerous toxic compounds, many of which are deadly to people, especially young children. Reactions to oleander poisoning are evident quickly, and ingestion can cause both gastrointestinal effects (nausea and vomiting, excess salivation, abdominal pain, and diarrhea that may or may not contain blood) and cardiac effects (irregular or erratic heart rate). Extremities may become pale and cold due to poor or irregular circulation, and the central nervous system may also be affected. (These symptoms can include drowsiness, tremors or shaking of the muscles, seizures, collapse, and even coma that can lead to death.) - Millet (639-)
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