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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun 16 Oct, 2011 1:13 am |
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Israel pomegranate culavation:
"The main disorder which causes a severe economic impact is splitting of ripe fruit. The damage can be even to half of the yield.
Regular irrigation can decrease the damage. However regular irrigation as is done in the commercial orchards in Israel does not prevent it completely.
Purdue University:
For good fruit production, pomegranates must be irrigated. The fruit must be picked before over maturity when it tends to crack open if rained upon or under certain conditions of atmospheric humidity, dehydration by winds, or INSUFFICENT IRRIGATION.
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 395 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Mon 17 Oct, 2011 12:18 am |
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Millet,
yep, that definitely settles it. "Pomegranates that like drought" must be a myth!
Thank you for the information!
When (and how) do you decide that your poms are ready? We just wait until they fell of the tree. |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 17 Oct, 2011 12:26 am |
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I have already picked all the fruit off of my pomegranate tree, and processed them by freezing a lot of them, and keeping some for fresh eating.. I pick the fruit when the rind has developed a good red color. When you think that it is approaching time to harvest, you can sample a fruit from time to time to determine their maturity. - Millet (456-) |
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 395 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Mon 17 Oct, 2011 12:51 am |
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Millet,
thank you very much! We were "sampling" the fruits blown by the wind for last month or so and noticed that the more we wait, the sweeter they get. Regarding the color, ours (supposingly Wonderful) were bright red from the day one - after the petals dropped. Perhaps, it is time to harvest whatever are left although they are very ornamental and make a nice display on our front yard.
Thanks again! |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Mon 06 Feb, 2012 8:36 pm |
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I think we are starting a new growing season as it seems Spring is here. My Red Angels are all leafing out but not my Wonderful. The RA will be getting regular watering this year and should do good. I am hopeful that I will get fruit this year. The Wonderful will get more water since it currently lives with the Blueberries. We'll see who does best. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
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j3u5a8n Citruholic
Joined: 04 Oct 2011 Posts: 223 Location: Imperial Valley, California
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Posted: Wed 15 Feb, 2012 1:19 pm |
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I just planted my Angel Red last November. No leaving yet. Any tips are appreciated. |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Wed 15 Feb, 2012 9:25 pm |
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My RA survived the feeze we had last week quite well with only a little new growth that was burnt. Our winter was quite warm and that is why we have leaves this early. On the other hand the RA must flush earlier than Wonderful which has just the tinest little buds barely visible now. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
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TRI Citruholic
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 399 Location: Homestead, FL Zone 10
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Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2012 2:38 am |
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I left my Angel Red pomegranate behind when I moved here last November.
Something that will be missed but have moved on to other plants. |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Sun 01 Jul, 2012 4:55 pm |
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My Wonderful did eventually leaf out and had a fruit which mysteriously dissapeared recently. I now have a second fruit that is growing higher up on the plant. Maybe it will hang on. The plant itself has had many blooms just little fruit set even though as often as I can I have tried to pollinate with my finger as Millet described.
My Red Angels have grown nicely and all are over six feet tall and very thick. They have not bloomed well this year. Maybe next year with second year wood. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Sun 01 Jul, 2012 7:09 pm |
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Darkman wrote: |
My Red Angels have grown nicely and all are over six feet tall and very thick. They have not bloomed well this year. Maybe next year with second year wood. |
I wonder if there are any mechanisms to help pomegranates bloom like magnesium sulfate. I have some pomes that bloom well and others that don't. Maybe Harvey knows.
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun 01 Jul, 2012 9:12 pm |
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I have not counted the number of fruit on my Wonderful pomegranate, but it must have between 50 -100 fruit hanging on the tree. I have kept the soil moist by watering the tree once every 2 weeks following the Israeli's production method. Seems to work well. - Millet |
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GT Citruholic
Joined: 11 Jul 2010 Posts: 395 Location: Beaumont, TX (zone 9a)
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Posted: Mon 02 Jul, 2012 2:36 am |
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Darkman,
our pom was blooming insanely but only 3-5 fruits are set. The same story with the neighbor's pom. I am wondering whether it was the winter that we did not have to blame?
Good luck with keeping the fruit! |
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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Mon 02 Jul, 2012 3:14 am |
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Millet wrote: | I have kept the soil moist by watering the tree once every 2 weeks following the Israeli's production method. Seems to work well. - Millet |
Millet, do you have any information on the Israeli production method. I have drip bubblers on mine that water daily.
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon 02 Jul, 2012 6:42 pm |
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Dauben, only from what I read on the Internet. Some people on this forum think pomegranates should be grown dry. I have always grown mine moist., The tree has set a large fruit crop every year, without a miss. BTW, have you found steady work yet? Mary Lou and I have added you to our morning prayers ever since you lost your job. Should we keep it up, or are you employed?. - Millet
Israel pomegranate culavation:
"The main disorder which causes a severe economic impact is splitting of ripe fruit. The damage can be even to half of the yield.
Regular irrigation can decrease the damage. However regular irrigation as is done in the commercial orchards in Israel does not prevent it completely.
Purdue University:
For good fruit production, pomegranates must be irrigated. The fruit must be picked before over maturity when it tends to crack open if rained upon or under certain conditions of atmospheric humidity, dehydration by winds, or INSUFFICENT IRRIGATION.
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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Mon 02 Jul, 2012 7:34 pm |
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Millet wrote: | Dauben, only from what I read on the Internet. Some people on this forum think pomegranates should be grown dry. I have always grown mine moist., The tree has set a large fruit crop every year, without a miss. |
My pomegranates look good, but haven't produced much. It could be the age since they are only 1-2 years old, but I was hoping for them to produce a little faster.
Millet wrote: | BTW, have you found steady work yet? Mary Lou and I have added you to our morning prayers ever since you lost your job. Should we keep it up, or are you employed?. - Millet |
Thank you for your prayers. They have been answered and I started a new job last week that pays well and a great match to my skills. I worked a full three hours on my first day before I had to leave to the hospital for the birth of my son, Matthew Jacob Dauben. My employer was fantastic about it and even gave me this week off to be with my wife. I have been truely blessed.
Millet wrote: |
Israel pomegranate culavation:
"The main disorder which causes a severe economic impact is splitting of ripe fruit. The damage can be even to half of the yield.
Regular irrigation can decrease the damage. However regular irrigation as is done in the commercial orchards in Israel does not prevent it completely.
Purdue University:
For good fruit production, pomegranates must be irrigated. The fruit must be picked before over maturity when it tends to crack open if rained upon or under certain conditions of atmospheric humidity, dehydration by winds, or INSUFFICENT IRRIGATION.
Millet ( |
I had a couple the cracked last year, but with a low yield I honestly missed them and didn't see them there. I water daily, but to me the soil doesn't seem overly wet so I'm not sure if I'm doing anything wrong. Like anything, I should probably spend some time researching how to grow them.
Thanks,
Phillip |
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