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jbclem Citruholic
Joined: 13 Aug 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Topanga Canyon, Ca 9b
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 9:30 pm |
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Phillip, the 640/10 doesn't have the curve up to the tip that other budding knives have. How important is that curve for budding (which I haven't tried yet)? The only budding feature on this knife seems to be the tongue on the back of the blade, something I can do without..I'd rather make my own spreader. Is there something else on this model that justifies the $56 TimmerEnterprizes price, double that of other purely grafting knives. If the tongue is the only difference, I think I'd rather by two knives, one for budding, one for grafting, and the price would be about the same.
JoeReal, I've tried utility knives (but not the HD box knife), and I get the same dip(at the beginning of the cut) that I get with my not so sharp irish grafting knife. I think that dip is caused by the extra strength used to begin the cut. When I sharpened my irish grafting knife I was able to make a nice long flat (without a dip) cut. I'm guessing that a really sharp knife doesn't need the extra force that causes the dip. Is the HD box knife that sharp that you don't have this problem, or am I getting this all wrong? I'm talking about whip grafts or any type of graft where you need a nice long flat inclined cut. |
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 9:35 pm |
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jbclem, it takes practice. Home Depot sells special utility knives that are very sturdy, and costs about $7 each. Last year, I bought a 5-knife pack for only $20 and have given away some of them as gifts. I really loved the HD knife (will look at what brand when I get home later), as it makes precise whip cut, no curling at the end. I can make a very flat plane cut with it. Of course I whittle the first cut until it is as flat as you have used a plane. |
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jbclem Citruholic
Joined: 13 Aug 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Topanga Canyon, Ca 9b
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Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2009 8:54 pm |
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JoeReal, did you get a chance to look at the brand name of the HD utility knife that you use? I'd like to take a look at it.
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2009 10:08 pm |
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jbclem wrote: | JoeReal, did you get a chance to look at the brand name of the HD utility knife that you use? I'd like to take a look at it.
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John,
The brand is Husky (or Huskie).
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jbclem Citruholic
Joined: 13 Aug 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Topanga Canyon, Ca 9b
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Posted: Sun 22 Feb, 2009 8:08 pm |
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Joe, I was at HD looking at the Husky utility knives...do you use the 9mm or the 18mm version. Those are the ones with the snap off blades, where you could have any length of blade showing...all the other ones had single replaceable blades and only a short blade showing. |
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buddinman Citrus Guru
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 342 Location: Lumberton Texas zone 8
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Posted: Mon 23 Feb, 2009 12:24 am |
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Recently I gave their address to a friend in Florida. he called Tmm and they would not sell to him. I was trying to save the postage from me to him. Any way i ordered the three knives for him. He wanted 283HD aand 1 283D. Their prices are very good but have increased in the last year. |
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Mon 23 Feb, 2009 2:25 am |
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jbclem wrote: | Joe, I was at HD looking at the Husky utility knives...do you use the 9mm or the 18mm version. Those are the ones with the snap off blades, where you could have any length of blade showing...all the other ones had single replaceable blades and only a short blade showing. |
I use the single replaceable blade. The single blade has actually two ends that you can flip so that you can use the single blade twice. I love the single replaceable blade because they are very strong and sturdy when you set them. The snap blade version is flimsy for me to handle so I use the single replaceable blade. The blades are easy to replace if you do it often. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5657 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Mon 23 Feb, 2009 3:15 pm |
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I have never used a grafting knife. I have always used a utility knife with the replaceable blades. Have almost 100% take this way. If the bark is slipping I use the inverted T & rarely lose a bud. If the bark is not slipping a cleft graft works great. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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