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dauben
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Posted: Wed 22 Oct, 2008 1:21 am

Skeeter wrote:

Phillip, I am going to try that low tech mosquito trap-- I will let you know how well it works -- it could be a good source of fertilizer!


I'd be interested in seeing how well it works. Some years we get a few mosquitoes, but it tends to be the real wet years. To the west of us, the critters don't like the salty air/water as much but according to some of the Environmental Impact Reports that I read there is a variety that will tolerate the salt.

Since I just ordered a bunch of bread mixes for my wife, we have a bit of yeast around to make the low tech mosquito trap. Now we just need mosquitoes. . . .

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Posted: Wed 22 Oct, 2008 1:24 am

Just to give everyone an update on the pheromone trap, it seems like it's working pretty well. It's definitely catching the males. I don't know if it's helping deplete the offspring by reducing the male population, but I'm definitely catching them. I'm surprised to see how small they are though. They aren't very big for the amount of destruction that they cause.

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Posted: Wed 22 Oct, 2008 12:22 pm

I don't have 2L bottles, but I used some 12 oz water bottles--it has trapped a few, maybe half a dozen in each bottle, but maybe bigger would work better by giving off a stronger stream of CO2. I will try to find a few 2 L bottles and try again.

As for the miners, have you been able to see the larvae when they are inside the leaf-- near the end they are pretty big--almost 1/8 inch--easily seen with the naked eye and easily smashed with your finger rubbing over them-- they do seen to get smaller when they become a pupa.

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Location: Riverside, CA

Posted: Tue 22 Sep, 2009 3:19 pm

Skeeter wrote:
I sent the company an email earlier this year and never heard back from them. Where can you get the traps and how much do they cost?


Hi Skeeter, I'm sorry you didn't get a response, your message may have been filtered out by the junk filter. Send me a PM and I'll send you a free sample of our kit.

Our pheromone lures are very effective at catching male CLMs. Some customers with only a few backyard trees or moderate CLM levels have found that they can effectively reduce damage with the traps alone.

For larger areas/more trees/higher populations the traps will not be enough to control, but they are useful for monitoring.

Please beware of some competing pheromone traps. We know that some retailers are now carrying a cheaper CLM trap kit from another company. We did a field trial with this trap and lure kit, you can see the results here: CLM Kit Testing

We now have an online store: http://www.iscatech.com/ecommerce/
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Posted: Thu 24 Sep, 2009 9:05 pm

Thanks--I am sure the traps will get a good test here--there are plenty of CLM and they are hard to control because of all the rainfall that washes away any sprays.

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Posted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 10:35 pm

I've had a ISCA CLM pheromone trap up in a potted grapefruit tree for over a month. It took 4 days before I started seeing results, small light brown objects stuck to the floor of the trap. I had 8 at 4 days, 28 at 2 weeks. They stopped coming for a few weeks, but when I checked recently the count was up to over 50. They are all identical in size and color, so I have to assume they are CLM.

Interestingly, the trap is about 3 feet from a Flowtron Bug Zapper placed there to attract the very same pest. The CLM are very small and hard to spot flying around, and I've never been able to see any at the Bug Zapper...this seems to prove that they aren't attracted to the untraviolet light, at least not in noticeable quantities. Whereas, most moths and other night flying creatures(including praying mantises...but I have plastic netting around the Bug Zapper to exclude larger insects) are enamored with the light, can't seem to get enough of it.

Does anyone know how wide an area one trap will cover? I have some small citrus 15 feet away and two of them have the leaf miner. Do I need to hang another trap there?

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dauben
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Posted: Mon 19 Oct, 2009 11:40 am

jbclem wrote:
I've had a ISCA CLM pheromone trap up in a potted grapefruit tree for over a month. It took 4 days before I started seeing results, small light brown objects stuck to the floor of the trap. I had 8 at 4 days, 28 at 2 weeks. They stopped coming for a few weeks, but when I checked recently the count was up to over 50. They are all identical in size and color, so I have to assume they are CLM.

John


Funny, because I put my last pheromone trap in a grapefruit tree about a month ago also. The tree happened to be next to a water leak so it had a bunch of new growth on it that the CLM too a liking to. I'm guessing I have about 500 miners in the trap.

Anyway, I don't know how many you would need. You may want to PM ISCA's rep who just posted on this thread.

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Posted: Mon 19 Oct, 2009 1:40 pm

I put one out just a few weeks ago--it easily had a 100 in just a day or so, and is probably well over 500 now--I counted 55 in just one grid square. Most are found in the first two inches of the ends of the trap, but there are some all over. I think it has significantly reduced the damage from miners--even better than oil I normally use but had to give up on this yr because of so much rain.

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Posted: Wed 21 Oct, 2009 3:40 am

In one of the links above it says Tree & Shrub Insect Control by Bayer can be used and its only used once a month. Its systemic and you just pour it into the soil.

Has anyone tried this and why is it not as favored as the sprays and traps?
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Posted: Wed 21 Oct, 2009 10:03 am

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Tree & Shrub Insect Control by Bayer


I use this all the time on non-bearing trees. It is a systemic and works great.

http://www.bayeradvanced.com/product/12-month-tree-and-shrub-protect-and-feed/concentrate.html

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Posted: Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:54 pm

The Key word there is non-bearing---since it is systemic and last for more than a yr, you would not want to be eating it in your fruit.

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Posted: Sat 24 Oct, 2009 9:38 pm

Are leaf miners seasonal? I had a CLM a few weeks ago but now that its cooler and my trees aren't putting out as much new growth the problem has subsided a bit. I'd like to try the traps but is this something I'll need year round or during certain times of the year?
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Posted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 11:49 am

Miners are seasonal--at least in temperate climates. Usually the first flush of the yr is miner free, the second flush is usually the first one affected and then the third flush is most affected.

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Posted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 6:47 pm

What months do these flushes usually occur?
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Posted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 11:57 pm

First flush is usually Feb/Mar, 2nd in Jun/Jul and 3rd Sept/Oct more or less.

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