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Ecomtl Citruholic
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Posted: Wed 27 Sep, 2006 10:00 pm |
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Whoa, a reply while I was replying, que raro!!
Thanks Ned. Do you really think it could still have no roots after all this time?? I cut and planted it 6 weeks before I started seeing blooms. That means it's been in there for over 5 months. This is the part that is so boggling to me.
As for treating it as if it has roots, I have been, but the soil is always moist, since it's in the bottle. I almost never water...and it's wet! ? In such a small pot, terra cotta no less, you'd think it would always be dry. No go. _________________ ♣Gen
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Patty_in_wisc Citrus Angel
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1842 Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi
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Posted: Wed 27 Sep, 2006 11:36 pm |
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Hi Gen, I would leave the top off now & let some air circulate around it. If it's lived this long, it's gotta have roots. Do you see roots from hole in bottom of pot? Or, let the top dry out a bit and hold 2 fingers across top of soil & turn pot upside down so surface soil falls off. Do you see surface roots? Better yet, if it slips out of pot you'll get better view & either slip it back in or pot up. But, I'd leave the top off . _________________ Patty
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu 28 Sep, 2006 1:05 am |
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On cuttings that I root, when I think that the cutting has started to develop some roots, I VERY GENTLY pull on the cutting. If there are roots developing there is resistance, if the cutting easily slips out of the medium than it, of course, has no roots. - Millet |
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Ecomtl Citruholic
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Posted: Thu 28 Sep, 2006 2:29 am |
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Thanks for the replies Guys!
I know Patty, this is the thing I tried months ago (top off), but had BAD results, in fact I think that's why I lost that one leaf on six I had going on. I let it breath, but when I do the leaves hate it, even only an hour. I agree the bottle method is good for results at first, but later HHmmmmm
When I leave the top off to dry the soil, the leaves go ape crap cause they are so used to the humid contained environment. I can't win with this thing, yet it seems deermined to survive......depot and discover if there asre really roots or what? _________________ ♣Gen
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Ecomtl Citruholic
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Posted: Thu 28 Sep, 2006 2:35 am |
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Millet wrote: | On cuttings that I root, when I think that the cutting has started to develop some roots, I VERY GENTLY pull on the cutting. If there are roots developing there is resistance, if the cutting easily slips out of the medium than it, of course, has no roots. - Millet |
Oh Yes I forgot, I did this a few months ago, seemed stable, just did the same test a few days ago and it was a bit loosey goosey.
Cutting still looks the same today, it's super cutting,I tell ya! _________________ ♣Gen
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Skeeter Moderator
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 2218 Location: Pensacola, FL zone 9
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Posted: Fri 29 Sep, 2006 10:06 am |
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It sounds like you need to wean you cutting off of the 100& humidity.-- Maybe you could make a separate top with some holes in it for ventilation and then increase them over time. Just a thought--Skeet |
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Ecomtl Citruholic
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Posted: Tue 03 Oct, 2006 10:43 pm |
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Well, I couldn't stand it any longer and checked for roots. Since may, it has not developped one single root. I give up. It's now out of it's bottle and free to die as it will. I still don't understand the multiple flowers I got on it this summer and fall.
Oh well, experiment failed. I'll concentrate on the seedlings. _________________ ♣Gen
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Tue 03 Oct, 2006 11:04 pm |
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If rooted cuttings are left too long in over moist soil the roots will die... |
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garnetmoth Citruholic
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 440 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Tue 03 Oct, 2006 11:58 pm |
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or air-layering! |
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valenciaguy Citruholic
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 340 Location: Southern Ontario, Zone 6a
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Posted: Wed 04 Oct, 2006 9:37 am |
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I have used gel rooting medium that are sold at most department stores. I have used a calmondin it is as an experiment with citrus and i have two main roots and one is starting to branch out, i started rooting it in augest. |
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Ecomtl Citruholic
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Posted: Wed 04 Oct, 2006 3:09 pm |
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Laaz wrote: | If rooted cuttings are left too long in over moist soil the roots will die... |
DOH! Would they die back completely so that when I looked I would see no trace of them over having been there? If so, this is what must have happened. I'll try again next spring I suppose, but I'll ween it from humidity slowly and much earlier this time. I'm not ready to sacrifice a cutting off the Cal now, going into winter. _________________ ♣Gen
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Ecomtl Citruholic
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Posted: Wed 04 Oct, 2006 3:17 pm |
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garnetmoth wrote: | or air-layering! |
Has this been discussed in great detailed on this site? I've heard of air-layering of course, but mostly for succulents. _________________ ♣Gen
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Patty_in_wisc Citrus Angel
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1842 Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi
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Posted: Wed 04 Oct, 2006 3:35 pm |
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I have about 100% success when air layering. Some plants just don't like to root when cut. It has been discussed here somewhere...JoeReal did a tutorial on it.
Find a branch you want to root. Have a plastic 6-8 oz cup ready. cut cup from top lip to center of bottom, & make a hole in bottom wide enough to fit over/around branch. Put cup around the branch bottom & make sure it fits. You will tape it in place later.
cut the bark off the bottom of branch - about 1-1 1/2 inches. Sometimes I put rooting hormone on. Now place cup around & just below that area & pack with moist peet (after taping cut side of cup). After awhile, you can see the roots thru the cup....then, cut branch off of mother & pot it.
I tried rooting several branches of my Bay tree & only thing that works is air layering. _________________ Patty
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Ecomtl Citruholic
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 174 Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Posted: Wed 04 Oct, 2006 3:42 pm |
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wow, that's cool! You don't by chance have one all set up on a tree somewhere? I'd love to see a pic. I am a little confused on the cutting of the cup thing......
I have to try this. Is there a better time of year for this? My heating will start soon, and I have a puny humidifyer only. _________________ ♣Gen
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Wed 04 Oct, 2006 8:14 pm |
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Yes they will disapear as if there were none at all. Once you see new growth, transplant them in good draining medium. |
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