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mrtexas
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Posted: Sat 22 Oct, 2011 9:59 pm

I picked my first 5 gallon bucket today of page mandarins and my first half gallon of juice:



That is my son Nickolas age 8 in front of my changshou kumquat tree. I must have at least 50 gallons of fruit or more on my page tree. I like the taste of the juice as well, it's like a cross of mandarin and valencia. That 45F night we had this week helped to color them up.

My satsumas have been a disappointment as far as quality. The fruit is puffy except near the ground. Some trees are 10 years old as well.
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Posted: Sat 22 Oct, 2011 11:53 pm

Ten year old Satsumas that don't produce quality fruit is disturbing to me. From all of your posts that I have read it is obvious you are no amateur like me. With our relatively close proximity to each other that really concerns me. I would hate to think I have a similar fate in store.

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Posted: Sun 23 Oct, 2011 12:31 pm

Darkman wrote:
Ten year old Satsumas that don't produce quality fruit is disturbing to me. From all of your posts that I have read it is obvious you are no amateur like me. With our relatively close proximity to each other that really concerns me. I would hate to think I have a similar fate in store.


That is why I planted lots of other besides satsuma like various mandarins, grapefruit, navel, blood oranges.
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Posted: Mon 24 Oct, 2011 12:25 am

Wow, 50galons of page mandarins, Ill be lucky to get 20 fruit!! your Changshou looks freeking beautiful, balanced and fruiting. Would you recomend the changshou as a fresh eating kumquat, how dose it compare to Meiwa - I have one and really like it. Too bad about the satsumas Crying or Very sad
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Posted: Mon 24 Oct, 2011 6:53 pm

mrtexas wrote:
That is why I planted lots of other besides satsuma like various mandarins, grapefruit, navel, blood oranges.


I have done the same but still the Satumas represent probably 50% of my trees. My Owari's have produced several pleasant tasting fruit so far. My Sunburst are coloring up but they are not quite sweet enough yet. Hopefully mine will be good enough in a few years.

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Posted: Tue 25 Oct, 2011 1:28 am

RyanL wrote:
Wow, 50galons of page mandarins, Ill be lucky to get 20 fruit!! your Changshou looks freeking beautiful, balanced and fruiting. Would you recomend the changshou as a fresh eating kumquat, how dose it compare to Meiwa - I have one and really like it. Too bad about the satsumas Crying or Very sad


I use my changshou for marmalade. It has more juice than meiwa so is more sour. It also has lots of thick sweet skin.
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Posted: Fri 28 Oct, 2011 2:07 pm

mr texas, i have a few questions. mainly, do your pages always ripen this time of year, and whats the growth pattern like? is it upright or more like an owari? im looking for a another tree but id really like something that grows up rather than out. im also consdiering a ponkan mandarin, you have any of those? which you prefer?
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Posted: Fri 28 Oct, 2011 3:13 pm

My Ponkon has an upright growth but it is too young for fruit yet.. It did come higly recommended.

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Posted: Fri 28 Oct, 2011 5:17 pm

im really leaning toward the ponkan for the bigger fruit and later season from what ive read, i just dont want too big of a tree, im a little limited in space. all ive seen that the 2 are equal in flavor so its a toss up there

another i might have considered is what i think was a temple orange, the guy bought a tree from florida and has no idea what it is. how would i go about getting that tree or another fruit if i wanted one? they sell at home depot in FL??
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Posted: Fri 28 Oct, 2011 10:19 pm

Temple is a great tasting fruit. I first tried some in Central Florida when I lived there. It is planted as a pollinator for minneola. It is also late, like March. It is know as being less cold hardy than average.
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Posted: Fri 28 Oct, 2011 10:21 pm

redster wrote:
im really leaning toward the ponkan for the bigger fruit and later season from what ive read, i just dont want too big of a tree, im a little limited in space. all ive seen that the 2 are equal in flavor so its a toss up there

another i might have considered is what i think was a temple orange, the guy bought a tree from florida and has no idea what it is. how would i go about getting that tree or another fruit if i wanted one? they sell at home depot in FL??


Page makes fruit smaller than a satsuma,some golf ball sized and the largest being small satsuma sized.. My page is not as sweet as it will get but is still good right now. Growth habit is upright. Wonderful fruit quality though. It tastes somewhere between a good valencia and a tangerine.
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Posted: Sat 29 Oct, 2011 12:20 am

i like that a temple is very late season, ive got an owari, sunburst, meyer and ruby red. i just need to fill some gaps with room for 2 trees. i fairly certain im getting a st ann satsuma for the early season, and i need another later one. if i could sqeeze out the room, it would be nice to get ponkan and a temple orange, i just think my back yard would be too cluttered.

you say golf ball sized, but the fruit in the pic looks like a decent sized satsuma, that wouldnt be too bad, but even if it produced lots more, i wouldnt want to eat golf ball sized too often...

wouldnt a temple work as pollinator for my sunburst also? i have about 50 fruit on a 3 year old tree, i cant imagine if i had a good fruit set.
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Posted: Sat 29 Oct, 2011 12:32 am

Ponkan is my favorite of all the mandarins. Nice firm flesh & super sweet.

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Posted: Sat 29 Oct, 2011 11:48 am

This is probably obvious question given pages parentage but, will clementine make page seedy? What about satsuma? Anyothers that are not well known? My pages this year are seedy and im looking for culprits.
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Posted: Sat 29 Oct, 2011 5:37 pm

laaz when you say firm, its not chewy like when i eat my tangerines? ive only eaten a few a few years back, i dont remember them being that tough?
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