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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Thu 17 May, 2012 2:45 pm |
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Ive got some citrus trees planted next to a parcel of undeveloped land thats filled with oak trees. These oaks are sending runners underground that are sprouting in the drip zone of my citrus trees. I pull them on sight but they keep coming and Im afraid that they are getting the lions share of the water and fertilizer that Im putting down for my citrus. Any suggestions as to how I can deal with this invasion?
Thanks and best,
Skinn30a _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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adriano Citruholic
Joined: 24 Feb 2012 Posts: 357 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2012 6:02 am |
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cut down the oak. _________________ i am in love with lemon |
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2012 2:44 pm |
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Wish I could cut them down Adriano but I don't own the parcel next to me. These thngs are invasive as heck! I'll pull one shoot and then then they'll be two more the next time it rains. _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2012 2:47 pm |
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And if they are live oaks they are protected. Not a lot you can do besides continue to cut the roots back. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2012 2:51 pm |
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They are not live oaks but some kind of scrub oaks.... _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2012 2:57 pm |
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Are they on a vacant lot ? _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2012 2:59 pm |
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Yes, it is vacant and will stay that way. _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2012 3:01 pm |
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Drill a hole in one of the main roots & pour some stump killer in it. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Fri 18 May, 2012 3:14 pm |
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10-4. From what I can tell, there's not really a main root. I might try and brush some on the shoots as they come up. I just dont want any to get on my citrus tree roots. _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 590 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Sat 19 May, 2012 11:40 am |
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Are you sure they are shoots from roots?
In the UK oaks do not send up suckers - though they are almost certainly a different species of oak from yours. But they do produce plenty of seedlings from acorns - often buried by squirrels. The best control is to collect and remove fallen acorns in autumn (=fall). |
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Sun 20 May, 2012 2:58 pm |
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citrange wrote: | Are you sure they are shoots from roots?
In the UK oaks do not send up suckers - though they are almost certainly a different species of oak from yours. But they do produce plenty of seedlings from acorns - often buried by squirrels. The best control is to collect and remove fallen acorns in autumn (=fall). |
I tend to agree with Citrange. Where you live I would expect to see what you are calling a scrub oak which is mostly evergreen. That usually is a small gnarly tree. It could be a turkey oak which is deciduous and has attractive fall color before the lives fall. Either way I've never seen either of the send up root shoots. I have seen the ground carpeted with baby oaks from germinating acorns.
If it was me I'd locate the owner and ask permission to remove any trees within say six foot of your property so that your fruit trees will have more sun and the roots less competition for food. Maybe you could promise him some fruit when they start bearing.
If that option is unavailable to you then you may trim any branch that comes over your property line up to your line. You may also dig a trench at your property line and remove all the roots coming into your yard. You could put a barrier back in the trench prior to refilling it. Removing the roots will certainly benefit your Citrus as they will have bettr access to available food and water. If Squirrells are farming your land you may have to eradicate them.
Like Citrange said acorn removal will stop the sprouting.
Let us know what you do. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
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Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! |
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Ned Citrus Guru
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 999 Location: Port Royal, SC (Zone 8b)
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Posted: Sun 20 May, 2012 8:04 pm |
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Live Oaks will put up suckers.
I like Darkman's ideas. In the past, I have rented a trench digger a run it around my garden to cut off intruding roots. |
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Mon 04 Jun, 2012 4:13 pm |
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Thanks for all the replies. I ended up trenching my property line and installing a barrier of pressure treated 2 x 6's to keep new roots at bay. so far, so good. I'm not sure what kind of oak tree they are but those things are aggressive! I wish my the roots from my citrus trees grew that quickly! _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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Darkman Citruholic
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 968 Location: Pensacola Florida South of I-10 Zone 8b/9a
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Posted: Tue 05 Jun, 2012 8:41 pm |
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Post a pic if you can!
Thanks for updating. It is appreciated. _________________ Charles in Pensacola
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skinn30a Citruholic
Joined: 17 May 2012 Posts: 106 Location: Santa Rosa Beach, FL 32459
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Posted: Mon 15 Oct, 2012 10:41 pm |
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Update... my little barrier worker for a little while but the the runners started to come in underneath it... That said, I've defaulted to plan B which it time consuming but works well.
I purchased some herbicide by the name of Brushmaster - bad medicine for stuff with woody stems or broad leaf grasses. Folks mix it with hort oil or diesel and spray to keep their fence rows clean. This stuff also hangs around in the soil for a time and effectively keeps new growth at bay for a couple of months post application. They also use this stuff to kill trees - instructions for that are to make two notches in the tree bark, one below the other and apply a mix to the top notch. The 2nd notch catches the overflow.
Whenever I have an oak sprout come up, I clip it off 1/3rd of the way down from the top and dab some brushmaster/hortoil mix on the wound with a q-tip. This stuff goes to work fast - within 48hrs the little oak sprout is black and whithered. I let it remain there for a week or so with the hope that the poison will continue to work it's way back to the main runner and kill it. I then clip the shriveled remnants close to the ground and remove them to the trash before they tip over and possibly contaminate anything else.
So far, so good. they come up other places but not where a previous one has met it's demise. _________________ Zone: Border of 9a/8b
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