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plantcrazy2230
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Posted: Sun 24 Mar, 2013 10:26 pm

What is the best For Citrus, Sphagnum Peet Moss, Peet Moss, Poting soil, Garden Soil? It was suggested using Peet? for part of Soil Amendments. I'm confused. So many different mixtures. Using 50/50 Cedar Mulch, Peet?
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Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 12:22 am

Potting soil, and peat moss are practicably the same thing. Most all potting soils, (for example Miracle Grow potting soi)l, are 90 percent peat moss anyway. I have been using cedar mulch/miracle grow potting soil. The reason I use Miracle grow is because that is what my local hardware carries, and I don't want to drive all the way into Denver. You could also use peat moss if you wish. - Millet
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plantcrazy2230
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Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 2:13 am

Thanks Millet for explaining Peet. Time to do some repotting!!
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Evaldas
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Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 3:48 pm

I've started using 1:1 mixture of peat moss (neutralised) and coconut fiber (not CHC), and I'm not even thinking about switching to something else! Most decoratives citruses from Holland and Portugal come here grown in the same mix.
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Posted: Mon 25 Mar, 2013 5:42 pm

Evaldas, I am thinking that what you are calling Coconut fiber, is also called Coir. Is that correct? If indeed it is Coir, which are Coconut Husks that are ground up into a mesh, and sold in dry compressed blocks, that when the blocks are broken down in water the product looks almost exactly like peat moss. Is this correct/?- Millet
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Evaldas
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Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 3:54 pm

Yes, it is sold in blocks.
Here's how it looks after kept in water for about 15 minutes:
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Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 4:58 pm

I use graden soil in all my contains & have never had a issue. The potting soil on the other hand is like saw dust & I have never used it.

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Millet
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Posted: Tue 26 Mar, 2013 5:05 pm

Evaldas using peat & coir as the two ingredients of your 1:1 mix, your medium is then made up from two ingredients that are pretty much the same thing, or at least have much the very same properties . - Millet
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Posted: Sun 31 Mar, 2013 4:21 pm

Does it matter what type of cedar mulch you use? The only cedar mulch at Home Depot is shredded Red Cedar...

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Millet
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Posted: Sun 31 Mar, 2013 10:44 pm

I have always used the natural colored cedar mix, but I don't think the red mulch would be any problem. The red is used in flower beds and around trees, all the time, so it should be fine. - Millet
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Darkman
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Posted: Mon 01 Apr, 2013 12:26 am

Millet wrote:
I have been using cedar mulch/miracle grow potting soil. - Millet


Is that 50/50?

Is the cedar mulch to supply aeration?

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Millet
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Posted: Mon 01 Apr, 2013 11:51 am

Yes and yes. - Millet
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camo_hunter
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Posted: Mon 01 Apr, 2013 1:32 pm

I use ground pine bark with just a little chicken house dirt added. I don't think it is the best, but it works ok and is easy on the wallet. Anyone else use pine bark?
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Synovia
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Posted: Mon 01 Apr, 2013 1:56 pm

I use a mix of fine ground pine bark, turface, and rock grit.
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Millet
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Posted: Mon 01 Apr, 2013 6:24 pm

Many people the world over use pine bark. Commercially pine bark is the single most used ingredient in a container tree medium. This is because it is readily available, inexpensive, and generally will last for at least one year, which is considered the amount of time reauired for a nursery to sell their trees. Container growth media can be made of many things, as long as their combined particle distribution provides for reasonable water retention and sufficient aeration for root functions, and there are no toxic elements or agents present. There is no one best container growth medium. Important factors for consideration in formulating media for ornamental plants and trees include appearance, shrinkage loss, rate of decomposition, bulk density, water holding capacity, non-capillary air space, uniformity, pH, salinity, and moisture holding capacity. Most every nurserymen agree that whatever medium you choose, that at least 1/3 of the blend should be peat moss, or a peat moss type product. - Millet
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