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Is there a dwarf weeping sweet Kumquat?
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Darkman
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Posted: Mon 03 Dec, 2012 11:41 pm

I am finishing up a waterfall project at my house. As part of the design I built in some planting pockets. The pockets I have in mind will have about two square feet of surface and a depth of about eighteen inches. They will have good drainage and timer controlled irrigation. They will get a lot of reflected heat from the surrounding rock work and will have a surface height of about nine feet which is why I want the weeping.

I know I could have Googled or did a site search but then I'd have missed all your answers.

Overall it dosn't have to be a Kumquat but I would like something small and sweet that hangs on the tree well into Winter November through February

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 12:21 am

Maybe a Eustis limequat which weeps with the weight of the fruit. Not sweet, but it does weep & will stay small on flying dragon. Also hardy for your area.

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 12:55 am

Nippon is a small slow grower but not weeping.

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 1:50 am

Thanks guys,

I guess it is safe to say that there are not ANY weeping citrus. I realize that satsumas have a "weeping" habit but their primary structure does grow upwards. I actually did a web search with no results of meaning. So conjuring up some imagination I came up with the following.

Meiwa on Flying Dragon and trained using the wired branches of the Bonsai discipline. I would not have to root prune for many years maybe never in my lifetime.

So what say yee?

Is this feasable?

Could I achieve my desired look?

Should I plant some other plant there instead and quit fighting nature?

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 2:11 am

No, use wires to design the tree in the shape you desire. Most any Mandarin on FD should work fine. By doing so you will have a one of a kind citrus tree that you can be extremely proud of. You could use a Kumquat, but it will take a lot longer as Kumquats are very slow growing. - Millet
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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 2:52 am

I agree with Millet in shaping your tree. I would suggest a Seedless Kishu. Sweet, small fruit, outstanding flavor. Hangs very well on the tree. Ripens in October, but can stay on the tree through April.

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 1:17 pm

I suggest Kumquat Nagami.
They are so full of fruits, that all branches are weeping under the load of fruits.
Sometimes you have so many fruits, that the tree look like a orange pile of fruits and you see no leafes ...
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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 3:24 pm

Kumquats, either Nagami or Meiwa are very prolific and sort of "weepy", but definitely NOT sweet in my book. Yes, the skin is sweet, but the pulp is decidedly not sweet. The Meiwa will be sweeter than the Nagami as it has thicker skin, thus more "sweetness", but if you're really looking for a "sweet" citrus, kumquats are not really in that category. They are sour fruits that are edible in hand due to eating the skin. I still wince when I eat them.

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 3:33 pm

Patty Kumquats ARE SWEET !!!

Of course taste is different, but when you eat them deep dark orange then you surely will find them sweet.

I like them even not fully ripe and still fruity fresh, maybe you call that sour ...

The Japonica is not sour at all and even too sweet for me fully ripe ... it is kinda boring ...

Anyways I think all them will do better than limequat, for they are sour even for me ... nevertheless I like them.
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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 3:52 pm

No. They are not sweet. The pulp is sour. Period. You cannot tell me that ANY kumquat is sweet. Mandarins are sweet. Navel oranges are sweet. Even Cocktail pummelo hybrids are sweet. Kumquats are sour, sour, sour. Ick. I can only eat them when I psych myself up for it. What is so funny, is way, way back, when we owned our first home, we had a little kumquat tree in the back yard. I had never seen a kumquat tree, and was warned to make sure to eat the fruit peel and all, due to the pulp being sour, but that it would be an interesting combination. It was a Nagami kumquat, and was a very prolific producer of fruit. I wasn't a fan, and could only eat them if I dipped the cut end in sugar, first. What was weird was the fruit kept disappearing. I wasn't eating them, neither was anyone else in the family. One day, when I was changing my daughter's diaper and looking out her bedroom window into the back yard (the kumquat tree was right under her window), I noticed my German Shorthaired Pointer sauntering up to the tree. She sniffed it, then oh so casually plucked a kumquat carefully off the tree, and commenced to munching it. She did this about 3 or 4 times. Apparently that's where the kumquats were going. I thought that was so weird that a dog would eat kumquats!!

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 4:08 pm

Laughing Both my Rotts love satsumas.

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 4:11 pm

Your doggie had the better taste ... Laughing

Yes, dogs and many carnivores eat fruits, but eating Citrus, I never heard before ...

Similary weird story I had in Italy when a snake ate the blackberries and defended them against me .. Smile

Funny point is that you think all Oranges are sweet, I had some more acid than lemons and also like lemons, but refuse Kumquats ...

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 4:34 pm

Laaz, do your Rotties eat the satsumas peel and all? And, only the satsumas, or other mandarins?? I wonder if the satsuma skin is sweeter than perhaps, other mandarins or citrus? Haven't checked that out, personally.

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 5:05 pm

No, only peeled while I'm eating them.

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Posted: Tue 04 Dec, 2012 8:42 pm

I agree with Sanguinello, meiwas are sweet, pulp and all.

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