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Is there a dwarf weeping sweet Kumquat?
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2012 10:00 pm |
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Okay, again, no proof any of the available artificial sweeteners causes cancer. Not even the very much maligned Saccharine. We don't use Cyclamate here in the United States (it has been banned for over 43 years!), and Sucralose is not mentioned in your citation.
I think we have now beaten this horse to death. The current artificial sweeteners that we would have access to, to purchase and ingest will not be giving us cancer. And, to get back the the original post (mine), which mentioned Splenda (Sucralose), again, not going to give you cancer.
[/u] _________________ Patty S.
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6657 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2012 10:06 pm |
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Sanguello, thank you for all that sweeteners cancer free safety informaion. It has been helpful, and we appreciate it. - Millet |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5664 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2012 10:16 pm |
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I think I'll go have a cup of coffee... Damn it, coffee gives you cancer.
Enjoy life, stop worrying about nonsense. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Sanguinello Gest
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Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2012 10:17 pm |
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I know they all do ...
The problem is to proof it ...
Maybe you remember it took 30 years to proof that smoking kills ... same story again ... |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2012 10:42 pm |
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That's a ridculous statement. There simply is no proof at this point. Sugar will most likely kill you faster than artificial sweeteners will. And Laaz, no worries about coffee. The more they study it, the more benefits the researchers are finding. Go ahead and enjoy that cuppa Joe! That, and green tea. Just keep the lid on your green tea as it steeps, so you don't lose the great antioxidants through the steam. _________________ Patty S.
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j3u5a8n Citruholic
Joined: 04 Oct 2011 Posts: 223 Location: Imperial Valley, California
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Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2012 11:48 pm |
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I drink water. _________________ Okay, I don't need any more trees. Look! Another tree for sale!!! |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2012 11:54 pm |
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And that's the healthiest and most beneficial thing you can possibly drink for sure (and that's coming from a nurse). But, I can't resist my Meyer lemonade, it is so good, especially on a hot summer day. _________________ Patty S.
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j3u5a8n Citruholic
Joined: 04 Oct 2011 Posts: 223 Location: Imperial Valley, California
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Posted: Thu 06 Dec, 2012 1:45 am |
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Okay. Water and beer. _________________ Okay, I don't need any more trees. Look! Another tree for sale!!! |
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Hershell Moderator
Joined: 23 Nov 2009 Posts: 340 Location: Ga. zone 8
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Posted: Thu 06 Dec, 2012 2:11 am |
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Thanks Patty. I feel much better about using splenda. _________________ Hershell
Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus. |
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mrtexas Citruholic
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1029 Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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Posted: Fri 07 Dec, 2012 12:35 am |
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hoosierquilt wrote: | The flesh of the Meiwa is sour. The pulp is definitely not sweet like an orange. I have them both in my yard. Their flesh are equally sour, no difference at all. I've had kumquats just about longer than any other citrus, except navel oranges. I am one of those folks that just does not like sour citrus. At all. Now, granted, the Meiwa overall might be a bit sweeter because it has thicker skin than just about any other kumquat (available here in the USA, anyway). It is also a bigger kumquat that the Nagami, and rounder. But, it still is sour. A Seedless Kishu mandarin is sweet. A Clemnules mandarin is sweet. A Tango mandarin is sweet. A Cara Cara navel orange is really sweet All kumquats here in the USA have sour flesh.
Here is a quote from the UCR Citrus Variety Collection about the Meiwa:
Quote: | The sweet rind is thicker than the rind of Nagami, making it seem sweeter than Nagami. The flesh is light orange, contains a few seeds, and is acidic. |
http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/meiwa.html
Really. Truly. It is sour. |
Whether Meiwa is sour depends a lot on the time of year. Early, like now, Meiwa is pretty sour overall although the skin is sweet. But wait until March and Meiwa is sweet, sweet! At least here in SE Texas. I can't speak as to what it is like in Vista, CA. Probably much different.
In Riverside CA. UCR staff say that seedless Kishu and tarocco are the best tasting of mandarins and blood oranges. Not here in SE Texas however, IMHO. |
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mrtexas Citruholic
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1029 Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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Posted: Fri 07 Dec, 2012 12:49 am |
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Millet wrote: | Sanguello, thank you for all that sweeteners cancer free safety informaion. It has been helpful, and we appreciate it. - Millet |
Just to throw my 2ct worth on sweeteners. Man was not evolved with sucrose or table sugar. Consumption requires a real workout by the pancreas, perhaps too much to excrete insulin.
An interesting book is "Sugar Busters" which I have been living by since discovering my blood sugar is borderline high. The MD authors suggest that consumption of table sugar and high glycemic index starches like potatoes, corn, and white rice and the resulting elevated levels of insulin cause obesity and fat storage. Consumption of proteins promotes release of glucagon which promotes metabolizing stored fat. So at least in my case considering the pluses and minuses of sugar vs artificial sweetener consumption, I opt for the artificial sweetener when eating something sweet like lemonade to moderate my blood sugar levels. I'll know in a couple months after I get a new blood test for A1C. The A1C test result reflects your average blood sugar level for the past two to three months. |
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hoosierquilt Site Admin
Joined: 25 Oct 2010 Posts: 970 Location: Vista, California USA
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Posted: Fri 07 Dec, 2012 1:10 am |
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Okay. I'll give mine a taste test again, in March and April, and report back. I have had them in the spring, and they were sour to me, but heck, maybe another year's maturity will make them sweeter. Yes, the Seedless Kishu is indisputably the best tasting mandarin here in S. California. I have about 20 different mandarin varieties in my orchard to taste against. And, that's going up against some pretty fine mandarins out here: Page (not really a true mandarin, I know), Gold Nugget, Tango, Clemnules, California Honey, and the "Golds" (Yosemite/Shasta/Tahoe). Even the highly touted Dekopon, which was very, very good at UCR. All outstanding mandarins in my area, but Seedless Kishu is just so incredibly delicious.
And I would say that overall, the Tarocco will perform more uniformly here in S. California, as far as taste goes (not so much for its flesh coloration, as it won't get very colored in our milder areas), but I think my Moro oranges are as good if not better. Plus, my Moro oranges are absolutely purple/black. They color up beautifully, and if left on the tree a little longer (April/May), they get very very sweet and have that lovely complex berry/wine flavor. I really like mine. But, not everyone can get the Moro to perform this well, it is very dependent on weather and temps with regard to taste and color. I happen to get a fair amount of temps in the winter nights below 50 degrees, so my Moros do very well here. And of course, plenty of warmth in the summer, but not overly hot. _________________ Patty S.
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Synovia Citruholic
Joined: 10 Apr 2012 Posts: 33 Location: Richmond,Va - 7B/8A
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Posted: Thu 20 Dec, 2012 12:55 pm |
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Sanguinello wrote: | Your doggie had the better taste ...
Yes, dogs and many carnivores eat fruits, but eating Citrus, I never heard before ...
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I've never met a dog that wouldn't eat an offered orange slice. That being said, they usually won't touch the peel. |
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