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valenciaguy
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Posted: Tue 13 Jun, 2006 8:07 pm

I have a calmondin and i was wonder what if anything can be grafted to it, also where could i find grafting wax because i can't find it and i checked the local nursery. More importantly could Valencia orange be grafted to it or no?
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JoeReal
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Posted: Tue 13 Jun, 2006 8:30 pm

Don't use any type of wax, grafting or not on citruses. It gets messed up with the natural wax of the plant, unlike ordinary stone and pome fruits or figs.

Use T-budding. Practically I am able to graft anything I want on a Calamondin. If something don't take directly on a calamondin, I graft on a cultivar that has already been grafted to Calamondin.

Here's my direct grafts to Calamondin: Indio Mandarinquat, Nagami Kumquat, Meiwa Kumquat, Limequat, Marumi Kumquat, Gold Nugget Mandarin, Willowleaf Mandarin, Variegated Calamondin, Centennial Variegated Kumquat (very poorly, will graft it unto the indio mandarinquat), Fukushu kumquat, Sour Orange, Variegated Sour Orange, Temple Tangor, Yuzu, Sudachi Hybrid, and Variegated Bergamot.
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valenciaguy
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Posted: Tue 13 Jun, 2006 9:27 pm

So in T budding there is nothing around the graft area to protect it? If there is what is it that you use?
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JoeReal
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Posted: Tue 13 Jun, 2006 10:01 pm

There are several. One of the best ones that we use is wrap the bud with one layer parafilm grafting tape, then rubber band except over the bud's pimple, and then another layer of parafilm tape over the rubber band. This will fall off through time when the graft either heals or fails.

You can use vinyl tape with ony one layer wrap but you will have to come back and take it off carefully after the bud has taken because it doesn't deteriorate, otherwise the bud will nor grow through the stronger vinly tape.

Look at the link below in the tutorial to see where you can buy the parafilm grafting tape. I buy about 2 boxes per year (24 rolls)

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valenciaguy
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Posted: Tue 13 Jun, 2006 10:57 pm

Would masking tape work? Just because the online places don't ship to canada or i would buy it?
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JoeReal
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Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 2:04 am

Masking tape and electrical tape would leave messy residues that attracts dirt and pathogens.

I can send you a feet strip, good for 3 buds, if you want to try, email to me. I can send it via ordinary mail.
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garnetmoth
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Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 10:31 am

Ive also been told that PFTE plumbers tape works just fine. Its not quite as strong as parafilm but its self-adhesive. Ive got some lying around to try (its also great for stretching your earlobe piercings)
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buddinman
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Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 11:20 am

Regular vinyl budding tape works fine. Buddy tape is a japanese version of parafilm that has UV resistance built into the tape. It last much longer than prafilm and is stronger. It is a little more expensive than parafilm. Ther are about 750 picieces on the roll and it is perforated. Rach perforated piece is plenty to do one t-bud.
Personally I prefer chip budding tape. It is about $4.00 a roll but will have to be cut and removedafter the bud has made the union There is 800 feet to the roll while the regular budding and grafting tape only has 400 feet. The white tape is preferred over the clear for summer budding because it reflects heat. The darker tapes, like the green garden tie tend to absorb heat.
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valenciaguy
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Posted: Wed 14 Jun, 2006 11:51 am

Thanks for all of the input i didn't think this many people would reply!!
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Malcolm_Manners
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Posted: Thu 15 Jun, 2006 7:23 pm

If you can't find "real" grafting tape locally, you can make your own just by cutting strips 1/2" wide from a commercial bread wrapper, the bag your newspaper comes in, or any other thin plastic.
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valenciaguy
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Posted: Thu 15 Jun, 2006 7:30 pm

Thanks for all of your suggestions.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Thu 15 Jun, 2006 8:19 pm

My first grafting tape used was from plastic cling-wrap used for food. It takes forever for me to cut out a strip, which was okay for a newbie then, but now that I gaft by the thousands, have been buying grafting tapes.

my first successful T-bud was done using rubber band.
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JoeReal
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Posted: Wed 21 Jun, 2006 6:07 pm

Valenciaguy, i just mailed you about 10 ft of parafilm grafting tape, enough for about 15 t-buds.
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valenciaguy
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Posted: Wed 21 Jun, 2006 6:14 pm

Wow thanks a lot, i am very great ful. Phase one complete now to just find some bud!!
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Citrus_canuck
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Posted: Wed 21 Jun, 2006 6:39 pm

Being I was able to sucessfully seperate my 2 calamondins (not a single leaf drap.. yeah!) I'm thinking of grafting to the smaller of the two... just hard as right now it wont stop leafing out and puttong out flower buds. its going crazy!

Very happy to see this posting. I really want to play around with grafting, hopefully get success so when my flying dragon is mature enough to graft... away I go.

I know theres not much point in grafting the same type tree as the bud.... but can you? Just wondering if that may be the key to get my other cal more even now that half of its bushyness is gone. Just be nice to get it more evened out. tips would be greatful.

Just really excited to start grafting... the biggest thing is getting everything that I need. awhile back I read a post about a great starters grafting kit... I think it was 20/30 bucks. anyone still have that link? Cant find the message. I'm raring to go and well, I rather start off with the proper equpment

Thanks

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