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Sanguinello
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Posted: Sun 17 Jun, 2012 5:28 pm

There is a blood orange since 600 years .. and all others in same area, who are younger have nothing to do with it ...

Well, I cannot follow your logic ...

Besides I know much more about blood oranges than you ever will ...

Point.
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Radoslav
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Posted: Mon 18 Jun, 2012 6:14 am

Very good article about blood oranges:

http://www.califcitrusspecialties.com/docs/Karp%20blood%20oranges%20Fruit%20Gardener%202007.pdf


according to this article, blood oranges come originaly from China and Moro and Tarocco are mutations of Sanguinello, so I think, they can not be called "half-blood" or somethig like this.
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Sanguinello
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Posted: Mon 18 Jun, 2012 6:29 am

Mutations happen all the time, and surely had influences in the fruits of todays, but nevertheless they are the result of a breeding and crossing with other, blonde oranges.

Maybe you heard before the Sanguinello being called a "full blood orange"
I see that often, even in US articles and nurseries ...
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Posted: Mon 18 Jun, 2012 6:52 am

Pink or red coloration of citrus pulp depends of one set of genes, which controls the level of anthocyanins, so I think, you can not obtain deeper red coloration (Moro) by crossing Sanguinello with blond orange. For example: as far as I know, deeper coloration of grapefruits was obtain only by mutation - from spontaneous mutation - like some pink varieties, - to forced mutation of this set of genes with radiaton (buds or seeds) to obtain red pulp varieties- like Star Ruby etc.
But, it is only my opinion.
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Sanguinello
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Posted: Mon 18 Jun, 2012 6:58 am

That is what most think .. but all oranges have the genes.

Actually there are 2 genes who produce blood oranges, both must be there to produce the blood colour and the colder it is the more intensively.

So an orange with a recent blood gene can be well crossed and give even more coloration and even not both genes can passed on to next generation.
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Sylvain
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Posted: Mon 18 Jun, 2012 8:28 am

Radoslav, thank you for that very interesting article. It is a "must read".
This is real information.
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MarcV
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Posted: Mon 18 Jun, 2012 4:56 pm

Very informative indeed, thanks!

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