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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Sun 12 Sep, 2010 8:10 pm |
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I've noticed some grafts grow out at an angle that eventually blends well with the rootstock. Others, (I have a Cara Cara like this) grow out and always kind of hang off of the rootstock from the side. How does one get a graft to grow out at an angle that looks natural? I've noticed some of my trees almost appear to have been grafted at a 30 degree angle and the scion grows out in a much more natural way. I don't even see the rootstock top. My Four Winds trees look like this.
Here is a picture of a Four Winds graft that grows out and blends nicely. Are they T-Budding these grafts? Because this is how I would like all of my grafted trees to look. Looks like they are bark grafting their trees?
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David. Citruholic
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 400 Location: San Benito , Texas
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Posted: Sun 12 Sep, 2010 11:12 pm |
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Looks like a whip graft to me.
You can always bark graft also and it'll blend pretty good if you want a clean cut like that whip. _________________ South Texas gardener |
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Mon 13 Sep, 2010 2:54 am |
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What the disadvantages to this method? The finished product seems to look better than a T-Bud, if you are going for a single tree. |
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David. Citruholic
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 400 Location: San Benito , Texas
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Posted: Mon 13 Sep, 2010 10:26 am |
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Forgot to add that you should go ahead and cut where the arrow is pointing. It is coming from the rootstock _________________ South Texas gardener |
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Skeeter Moderator
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 2218 Location: Pensacola, FL zone 9
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Posted: Tue 14 Sep, 2010 12:53 am |
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It is really a matter of choice--the T-bud takes less scion, does not require the top to be cut off until you know it has taken. Whip, cleft, and bark graft require the top to be cut first. I do like the bark graft when scion material is limited--you can use a toothpick size tip of a limb for a bark graft. _________________ Skeet
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Mark_T Citruholic
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 757 Location: Gilbert,AZ
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Posted: Tue 14 Sep, 2010 2:00 am |
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Will a bark graft grow out and look like the example above? I would love to see a T-bud that looked as nice. |
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fred Citruholic
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134
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Posted: Tue 14 Sep, 2010 2:20 pm |
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buddinman wrote: | It certainly looks like a whip graft. |
+1 |
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fred Citruholic
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134
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Posted: Tue 14 Sep, 2010 2:23 pm |
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Mark_T wrote: | What the disadvantages to this method? |
Scion and understock mating surfaces need to be close to the same size. |
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Charllo
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 12 Location: Trinidad & Tobago
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Posted: Mon 13 Jun, 2011 10:21 pm |
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Am glad Am glad to see that you all are having success with T grafting.
I have been trying to graft some citrus for months now without any success at tall.
All my scions just dries up.
Can anyone please help me. |
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BabyBlue11371 Site Admin
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 830 Location: SE Kansas
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Posted: Tue 14 Jun, 2011 2:33 pm |
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Charllo,
What type of tape are you using? and how long are you leaving your tape on?
I personaly prefer to leave my tape on untill the bud has started to push through or trying to push through.. I know then that the graft has taken...
Also if you are not properly cleaning your knife between cuts it could cause fungus/infection and the bud will apear to dry up/ turn brown.. I had great problem with this when I first started grafting.. I always clean my blades between cuts and keep a spray bottle with rubbing alcohol that I lightly spray the bud to be removed and area to be grafted before i start my graft..
also if you smoke do not smoke while doing grafting.. Don't know why but I've noticed that grafts I've done while smoking (habit I need to quit) have a lesser chance of taking..
Gina *BabyBlue* _________________
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mrtexas Citruholic
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 1029 Location: 9a Missouri City,TX
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Posted: Tue 14 Jun, 2011 3:05 pm |
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Charllo wrote: | Am glad Am glad to see that you all are having success with T grafting.
I have been trying to graft some citrus for months now without any success at tall.
All my scions just dries up.
Can anyone please help me. |
There are lots of details to get right:
http://members.fortunecity.com/pjsauber/BuddingNotes.htm |
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meyermark
Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Southern Cal Zone 10a
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Posted: Wed 15 Jun, 2011 9:12 pm |
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I'm with Charlo, I too am having a tough time t-budding. I learned a large amount of my knowledge on this forum. Thought I would give it a shot and failed. I tried in three places and none of them took, so I have to assume is was my error. I even ordered parafilm over the internet.
A few questions.
Should my Meyer tree (rootstock) be more mature? (pic below)
Is it possible I over wrapped my bud with the parafilm? I went about 1-2 layers.
Uploaded with ImageShack.us _________________ Amateur Gardener. I like to work with fruit-yielding plants, I leave the pretty flowers to my wife. |
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Charllo
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 12 Location: Trinidad & Tobago
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Posted: Thu 16 Jun, 2011 9:06 am |
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Well its almost time for me to stop trying... my time is running out as i am now seventy one years old and not even successful with one plant.
Really i don't believe that the tape is the problem, but in any case am going to use what we have A combination of soft candle and masking tape" and give it a other shoot. |
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Charllo
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 12 Location: Trinidad & Tobago
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Posted: Thu 16 Jun, 2011 9:12 am |
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Somewhere I read that a man visited a site and 90 percent of fail ears was found with plants not using parafintape. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5657 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu 16 Jun, 2011 11:18 am |
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It takes about three weeks. I have used Teflon tape before when I was out of Parafilm tape. You need to use something that is water tight. I would not use masking tape, I doubt the bud will break through & it will leave a sticky residue that could rip the new shoots off when removed. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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