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citrusgalore Citruholic
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Columbia, SC zone 8b
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 1:14 am |
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From what I have read so far, I understand that some cold hardy citrus are inedible and/or bad tasting, and fit for ornamental purposes only.
I am getting my list ready for this spring for cold hardy citrus and I don't want to waste my money on inedible fruit nor am I interested in citrus for ornamental value only, at least at this time.
My citrus will most likely be planted outdoors in my zone 8b garden.
I would like to poll everyone for their absolute favorite cold hardy citrus:
Criteria: Excellent flavor, good taste (no off or bitter aftertaste), and sweetness factor.
Limes
Lemons
Oranges
Mandarins
Grapefruit
other citrus as long as it is certifiably delicious. _________________ A small piece of land with fruit trees and a garden allows one to live as kings and queens in times of trouble. |
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Skeeter Moderator
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 2218 Location: Pensacola, FL zone 9
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 1:34 am |
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Satsuma. _________________ Skeet
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buddinman Citrus Guru
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 343 Location: Lumberton Texas zone 8
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 3:43 am |
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I agree with Skeeter, SATSUMAS |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5682 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 10:04 am |
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Ponkan _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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morphinelover Citruholic
Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 212 Location: Gadsden, Alabama
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A.T. Hagan Moderator
Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 898 Location: Gainesville, Florida, United States, Earth - Sol III
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 12:07 pm |
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Satsuma or one of the other proven cold hardy mandarins.
Then kumquats.
.....Alan. |
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morphinelover Citruholic
Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 212 Location: Gadsden, Alabama
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 2:12 pm |
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A.T. Hagan wrote: | Satsuma or one of the other proven cold hardy mandarins.
Then kumquats.
.....Alan. |
For the sake of educating us on here and getting more in depth on this subject, what other mandarins besides satsumas and changsha are cold hardy? I'm pretty sure there isn't any more cold hardy than those two but I'm sure there are some that do quite well, since they are mandarins. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5682 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 2:30 pm |
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Most mandarins are quite cold hardy. Juanita, Ponkan, Satsuma, Changsha and Clementine are all pretty hardy. You want the ones that ripen before a hard freeze. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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A.T. Hagan Moderator
Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 898 Location: Gainesville, Florida, United States, Earth - Sol III
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 3:11 pm |
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As Laaz said all mandarins (satsumas, tangerines, clementines, and so on) are cold hardy, but you want a variety that will ripen its fruit before the hard freezes hit your area.
Out in my orchard I've got a Page orange (hybrid), Ponkan, Sunburst tangerine, Kimbrough satsuma, Ambersweet orange (another hybrid), Orlando tangelo (still another hybrid), and an unknown Satsuma. All chosen because they will usually ripen their fruit before we get a freeze hard enough to damage them. Usually.
Anything that ripens its fruit from December on in my part of Florida would be better kept in a container since chances are good that most years the fruit would freeze off about the time they were mature. Thus my Murcott is in the greenhouse.
.....Alan. |
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karpes Citruholic
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 379 Location: South Louisiana
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 6:09 pm |
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Satsuma and Ponkan . Choosing one over the other would be impossible for me.
Karl |
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citrusgalore Citruholic
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Columbia, SC zone 8b
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Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2009 10:25 pm |
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Okay, so far....so good....a big thank you to each of you for your response.
I now have on my list:
Satsuma (Owari)
Satsuma (Kimbrough)
Ponkan
Meiwa Kumquat
Sanbokan Lemon
Ponderosa Lemon
Meyer Lemon
For those above that may be more tender, they will be housed in winter.
More specifically, tell me about these:
Bloomsweet Grapefruit (taste?)
Changsha Mandarin (good eating/juicing?)
Name a good lime
Nippon Orangequat (is it good for out-of-hand eating or juicing?)
Tks for the reminder about the early ripening, that will be my final item to critique them by. _________________ A small piece of land with fruit trees and a garden allows one to live as kings and queens in times of trouble. |
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gary27
Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Baton Rouge, La
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Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2009 3:31 pm |
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1. Ponkan and Satsuma
Page and Honey Murcott isn't far behind.
There was also a 3 week stretch in December where my Dancy's were fantastic. Before that they were okay, after that okay. _________________ Gary |
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Matt N Citruholic
Joined: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 58 Location: Dallas, TX z8
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Posted: Sun 01 Feb, 2009 12:08 pm |
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satsuma, ponkan, page |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5682 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Sun 01 Feb, 2009 12:31 pm |
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Quote: | Ponderosa Lemon
Meyer Lemon |
The Ponderosa is not hardy at all. The Meyer you may do ok with in columbia, but you will need to plant it in a good micro climate and use some protection. You should also get it as a rooted cutting, just in case it gets killed back by a freeze so it will come back from the roots.
I have a Meyer on it's own roots in my front yard. So far it has never been damaged & produces a tone of huge fruit every year. It is about 10 ft tall now. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Scott K. Citruholic
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 82 Location: Columbia, S.C.
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Posted: Sun 01 Feb, 2009 1:20 pm |
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I can help you with most, if not all of these plants.
I still can't wrap my head around putting them in the ground.
I have a large flying dragon that I bought from Woodley's that I planted in the ground that I shall try to bark graft Satsuma and Ponkan to this Spring. I plan on only trying to have to protect just one tree. The best in ground protection that I have seen is Mr. Texas' friend's large frame built around a grapefruit tree
I have some flying dragon rootstock going. If you want to plant some, I'll hook you up. When they are big enough, you can bud something onto them.
If you want to save time, see Stan or do the mail order thing.
Beware the Yellow Dragon!!!!!
My part of Columbia(Irmo) is a big deposit of hard red clay. Great for making bricks. Perhaps you are a little south or east, and enjoy a sandier planting situation. _________________ Peace, Love, and Citrus |
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