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Bernhard Citrus Guru
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Jork near Hamburg, zone 8a but cold summers
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Posted: Sun 01 Feb, 2009 2:32 pm |
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Laaz wrote: | Most mandarins are quite cold hardy. Juanita, Ponkan, Satsuma, Changsha and Clementine are all pretty hardy. You want the ones that ripen before a hard freeze. |
also very, very hardy:
-Satsuma x trifoliata Prag - fruit quality as Satsuma, but much hardier, (10°F), ripens in novembre
-c.keraji Keraji Mandarin, a yellow, wild form of a mandarin hardy to 10°F, it survived many winters here - fruit taste like a clementine but a bit more sour. Nice growing habit. Ripening in octobre. _________________
all weather notes:
http://wetterarchiv.wetter.com/station/3086/wetterdaten.html |
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citrusgalore Citruholic
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Columbia, SC zone 8b
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Posted: Mon 02 Feb, 2009 12:02 am |
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Scott K.
Thank you for your most generous offer. We'll get together on that real soon.
When I get on my new property, I do plan on putting a cold frame over
my more tender trees like Mr. Texas, along with the nice little oil heaters. We use two at work in a 25 X 30 greenhouse and it has always stayed cozy in there even on the coldest nights.
I am in total sand, it's just like the beach, except in some places it is mixed with orange clay. It's still just like pouring water through a sifter though!
Bernhard,
Is there a cultivar name for the Satsuma X trifoliata Prag?
Laaz,
I have a friend who is growing Meyer in the yard here and it has done fine so far. Mine will most likely stay in a pot for several years before going out. The Ponderosa will be housed in a cold frame.
A big thank you to each one who responded to my query. Many read the posts but didn't have an opinion. I'm still wondering about the Nippon Orangequat....anybody know anything???? _________________ A small piece of land with fruit trees and a garden allows one to live as kings and queens in times of trouble. |
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Bernhard Citrus Guru
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Jork near Hamburg, zone 8a but cold summers
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5682 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu 05 Feb, 2009 5:19 pm |
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Quote: | I'm still wondering about the Nippon Orangequat |
Not very good in my opinion. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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morphinelover Citruholic
Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 212 Location: Gadsden, Alabama
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Posted: Thu 05 Feb, 2009 5:55 pm |
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Laaz wrote: | Quote: | I'm still wondering about the Nippon Orangequat |
Not very good in my opinion. |
What does it taste like? I've always thought that it would taste good by looking at pictures of it. Looks juicy and sweet. Guess not. LOL. I would still like to get some seeds of it to try it out since I've heard it was cold hardy. I can't be as picky on taste as some of you guys in around the gulf. |
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Westwood Citruholic
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon 16 Feb, 2009 4:10 am |
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Well so far ive Had some Nasty Luck.
we had the Big Grapefruit almost ripe and the Navel oranges this yr first yr of any good fruit and size .
and all ive been able to try new was my Pink lemons YUMMY
Neighbor has a Raccoon as a Fricken pet.
Can anyone say DAVEY CROCKET ?
im thinking my nephew would look cute in a hat. _________________ If it breaths and loves life Im a Friend..
If it Breaths and Hurts life .. thats the end.. |
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A.T. Hagan Moderator
Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 898 Location: Gainesville, Florida, United States, Earth - Sol III
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Posted: Mon 16 Feb, 2009 12:22 pm |
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morphinelover wrote: | Laaz wrote: | Quote: | I'm still wondering about the Nippon Orangequat |
Not very good in my opinion. |
What does it taste like? I've always thought that it would taste good by looking at pictures of it. Looks juicy and sweet. Guess not. LOL. I would still like to get some seeds of it to try it out since I've heard it was cold hardy. I can't be as picky on taste as some of you guys in around the gulf. | It's a mandarin/kumquat cross. Sweet skin, tart pulp. My limited exposure to them indicates they are juicy. Just bought one this year myself.
.....Alan. |
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dauben Citruholic
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 963 Location: Ramona, CA, Zone 9A
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 2:53 pm |
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Laaz wrote: | Quote: | I'm still wondering about the Nippon Orangequat |
Not very good in my opinion. |
How does it compare to an Indio Mandarinquat?
Phillip |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5682 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 3:04 pm |
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Never tried a Indio Mandarinquat. I don't for the most part grow very many "quats"
The Nippon Orangequat to me is very bland with some off flavors... _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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eyeckr Citruholic
Joined: 21 Nov 2005 Posts: 348 Location: Virginia Beach, VA (zone 8a)
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 3:32 pm |
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I happen to like the Nippon Orangequat. When they are nicely ripened I think they have a good flavor out of hand and not as much sour kick as the Indio Mandarinquat. The Indio is better suited as a sweetened 'citrus aid' type drink or an excellent marmalade. Nippon has been pretty hardy for me which adds to my desire to continue growing this one. I've had virtually no leaf loss on my in ground tree. This year for fun I may graft an Indio out to see how much cold it can take. |
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 6:45 pm |
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Actually, I don't think there is a single really good tasting cold hardy citrus. Some are fair tasting, most are poor tasting. - Millet (1,432-) |
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A.T. Hagan Moderator
Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 898 Location: Gainesville, Florida, United States, Earth - Sol III
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 7:08 pm |
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For an acid citrus I think calmondins are pretty good. Same for Chinotto orange.
I suppose it gets down to what one means by "cold hardy."
My limited experience with any of the trifoliate crosses has been they are all bad though I've yet to try the Rusk citrange.
.....Alan. |
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5682 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 8:14 pm |
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Quote: | Actually, I don't think there is a single really good tasting cold hardy citrus. Some are fair tasting, most are poor tasting. - Millet (1,432-) |
Exactly. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Millet Citruholic
Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 6656 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 8:34 pm |
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Alan, by cold hardy citrus, I am not referring to any of the commonly sold commercial varieties, such as mandarins , satsumas, an so forth. I'm talking about cold hardy varieties that are grown mostly by citrus hobbyist such as Citranges, Citrumelos, Ichanges, and many varieties that can be found in Tom McClendon's book "Hardy Citrus For The Southeast". Millet (1,432-) |
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citrusgalore Citruholic
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 131 Location: Columbia, SC zone 8b
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Posted: Tue 17 Feb, 2009 9:02 pm |
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Okay, now we finally get to the real 'nitty-gritty' of the whole conversation!
This is exactly the information I was looking for. I suppose the not so good taste is coming from the P. Trif. stock or breeding, right? _________________ A small piece of land with fruit trees and a garden allows one to live as kings and queens in times of trouble. |
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