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mrtexas · Posted: Sun 03 Oct, 2010 3:18 pm

My 6 year old son was playing with a 5 year old girl at 10 year old sister Hannah's soccer game yesterday. She happened to notice my copy of "Barack Obama,Dreams from my Father" on the ground next to my folding chair. The 5 year old states "Barack Obama! My mother doesn't like him, he lies." My 6 year old responds, "My dad says he is a goofball."

I bought the book used from Abebooks.com for $3 including shipping, not wanting to give additional royalties to the worst president of the last 100 years. My interest was tweeked by the following article in the Forbes explaining President Bizzaro's frame of mind from his father's anti-colonialism:

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/politics-socialism-capitalism-private-enterprises-obama-business-problem.html

My 10 year old doesn't agree. In the mock polls at school in 2008 she said she "voted" for Obama along with the rest of her class of mostly students from poor families.

fred · Citruholic Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134

worst presidents in my lifetime

1-Reagan
2-" W "
3-Obama
4-Clinton

Best-- not sure any qualify

Politicians are like people on management teams in companies in corporate America in one sense.

Some start out with good intentions, but soon the system corrupts them

Hopefully these truths will not get anyone upset , I would really hate to offend anyone

mrtexas · Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2010 12:41 pm

fred wrote:

worst presidents in my lifetime

1-Reagan
2-" W "
3-Obama
4-Clinton

Best-- not sure any qualify

Politicians are like people on management teams in companies in corporate America in one sense.

Some start out with good intentions, but soon the system corrupts them

Hopefully these truths will not get anyone upset , I would really hate to offend anyone

Best presidents of the last 100 years:
Reagan
Won the cold war when no-one thought it possible and started the longest stretch of prosperity in the nation's history by cutting taxes and cutting red tape. He got it right, "the government is the cause of the problem."

Worst:
1) FDR
Prolonged the Great Depression by "stimulating it" and continuing the great trade war that caused the whole thing Smoot/Hawley. Started the long road to socialism for this country.
2) Obama
Is determined to repeat the mistakes of the FDR administration and prolong the Great Recession with his socialistic policies and tax hikes. Democrats never seem to learn do they?
3)Clinton
Would rather diddle his pages than run the country. Pardoned a bunch of crooks that contributed money to his campaigns on his last day in office. Carter,a Democrat, described his pardons as deplorable. Most corrupt admin in history tied with LBJ.
4) Carter, LBJ both Democrat losers.

fred · Citruholic Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134

FDR's second term ended in 1941-- ????????

Your lifetime??????

mrtexas · Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2010 4:33 pm

fred wrote:

FDR's second term ended in 1941-- ????????

Your lifetime??????

No FDR was before I was born.

I agree with you about W. He was a RINO(Republican in name only) and he fought 2 wars with borrowed money, as bad as LBJ fighting Vietnam on borrowed money as causing all that inflation of the 70s.

But W was a piker as far as deficits vs Obama and his Democrat majority. The current situation of bad economy of course Obama blames on W. OK, maybe so but the last two year's deficits are on Obama's watch and he is repeating all the old Democrat mistakes of the past.

I hope the American people remember in the future how much damage to the economy a Democrat liberal government can do. But as we all know "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

fred · Citruholic Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134

I for one could never vote for a Republican- they are the greedy capitalists that have destroyed our country with their greed- shipping our jobs overseas

mrtexas · Posted: Mon 04 Oct, 2010 9:04 pm

fred wrote:

I for one could never vote for a Republican- they are the greedy capitalists that have destroyed our country with their greed- shipping our jobs overseas

Marxist, socialist are we? Last Democrat I voted for was Carter, what a mistake that was. I attribute my mistake to first time voting and not knowing any better.

fred · Citruholic Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 134

The reason american jobs have gone overseas is greed- Greedy business owners , plain and simple. Put what ever spin you want on it, but that is a FACT.

Also , if the post on name calling was directed at me-- please tell me who I called a name.

I knew LONG before I ever posted that the overwhelming vast majority of folks here are Republicans. But look closely at my posts here, I have equal distain for both parties. Politics is not a high calling , folks with good character don' get into politics, if they did it will soon corrupt them

Mark_T · Posted: Tue 05 Oct, 2010 2:23 am

Reagan was a great. Consider what the man did with a huge Democratic majority in Congress. I love the man, I wish he was still with us.

mgk65 · Posted: Tue 05 Oct, 2010 3:32 am

For you Ronald Reagan fans, the following Reagan 1964 Republican Convention video is very prescient to the situation today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY&feature=related

Another excerpt
"Those Voices Don't Speak for the Rest of Us"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wusgcG4rfo

Mark_T · Posted: Tue 05 Oct, 2010 4:25 am

I think that's a good rating. Where was FDR ranked? I can't stand the man, but history treats him better because of WW2.

Mark_T · Posted: Tue 05 Oct, 2010 4:26 am

mgk65 wrote:

For you Ronald Reagan fans, the following Reagan 1964 Republican Convention video is very prescient to the situation today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY&feature=related

Another excerpt
"Those Voices Don't Speak for the Rest of Us"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wusgcG4rfo

Thanks!

Mark_T · Posted: Tue 05 Oct, 2010 4:22 pm

Millet wrote:

Mark, without going through the trouble of actually looking up FDR for his exact rating, he was rated either 3rd or 4th. (Certainly in the top 5). - Millet (831-)

Whoa, that is way too high! Shocked

Sylvain · Posted: Tue 05 Oct, 2010 6:31 pm

I have read the Forbes' article and found it very interesting.
It gave me an opposite feeling of what you probably felt.
I felt Obama as very human. I agree with everything Obama's father thought and with every thing Obama did (but I don't agree about the terrorist).
I think the geopolitic analysis of the father was very good and still valid.
I also felt the relation from the son to his dead father very affecting.
After reading this article I think Obama is better than what I thought before.

Indeed everyone thinks as he want...

Excuse my poor English.

Mark_T · Posted: Wed 06 Oct, 2010 1:43 am

Sylvain wrote:

I have read the Forbes' article and found it very interesting.
It gave me an opposite feeling of what you probably felt.
I felt Obama as very human. I agree with everything Obama's father thought and with every thing Obama did (but I don't agree about the terrorist).
I think the geopolitic analysis of the father was very good and still valid.
I also felt the relation from the son to his dead father very affecting.
After reading this article I think Obama is better than what I thought before.

Indeed everyone thinks as he want...

Excuse my poor English.

I'm shocked a Frenchmen would love Obama's anti-American agenda. Shocked

Please, it benefits Europe the more we become like them. Which is why we should ignore anything they have to say about our elections. I'm sure they would love for us to follow Spain or Greece. The further we go down the drain, the less they have to worry about us competing with their economy.