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Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 3:55 am

I'm looking to buy a lemon tree. I haven't seen much selection other than Meyer and Eureka around Home Depot, Lowe's, and local nurseries.

I'm going to use the lemons to season fish, chicken, and maybe for making lemonade.

I heard Meyer grows faster than Eureka, while Eureka has better flavor. Which do you prefer and why? And what are other uses for lemons?

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Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 1:47 pm

Meyer. Its a little sweeter (less acidic) which is better for cooking in my opinion and definitely for lemonade. Also it's a smaller, less vigorous tree, depending on rootstock of choice obviously. Good looking tree.

But the best argument for Meyer is that they are not readily available at the store but Eureka are. If you want Eureka go the the store, if you want Meyer, go to your tree. Grow something different!
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Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 3:49 pm

For the first time I have lemons on my Meyer.
Very disappointing.
I don't like it as a lemon and will try in a lemon pie as recommanded.
For me, the issue is not that it is slightly sweet or less acidic than the regular lemon. It is that the taste and fragrancy of lemon is not there. Sad
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Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 4:51 pm

I process a 100 pounds plus Meyer lemons each year for freezing. Right off I can tell you hands down Meyer's makes the best lemonade ever with its lemon-orange flavor. It is excellent in tea as well. Lemon pies, lemon bars, Meyer's lemon fall short of a common lemon. You can compensate by increasing the amount of lemon juice and zest some but not 100%. Meyers, makes great barbecue sauce and steak sauce.

Like already posted, you can get common lemons everyday, so try a Meyer's.

I posted my lemonade recipe in the recipe section. I freeze the lemon-sugar syrup in quart sized bags so when ready to make I just add water. A wonderful treat all year long.

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Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 5:50 pm

As Gene Lester says, if you can easily purchase a citrus variety in the store, why grow it. - Millet (730-)
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Posted: Sat 15 Jan, 2011 6:52 pm

Avocado, not that this is a issue for you but the Meyer lemon is quite cold hardy compared to the Eureka. They Meyer is apparently a natural occurring cross between a regular lemon and some sort of mandarin orange. On tree that I have grown in the ground for the almost 5 years it has produced a wide size range of fruit. They have been anywhere from the size of a kumquat to a large, baseball sized fruit. Sometimes the peel has been thick , lately it has tended to be very thin... Perhaps this is due to climate and growing conditions or the fact that it is a young tree??? perhaps all are factors? Additionally I find the rind quite edible , I am hoping to make some marmalade someday.

My cousins live in Mission Viejo California and have a large Meyer lemon tree - perhaps about 35 years old - it has been a prolific barer of fruit. This tree got me me into growing - or least trying to grow citrus.

Meyer is my choice.

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Posted: Sun 16 Jan, 2011 8:53 am

Sylvain wrote:
... It is that the taste and perfume of lemon is not there. Sad

Give it a time.
My Meyer lemon is 9 years old. I have noticed something similar in a few occassions but not in the last couple of years. Well, crushed leaves *always* have some off-scent, what differs is concentration of it. During the worst occassions also flowers and fruits had unpleasant off-smell/taste. I'm not sure about conditions needed for that to happen, those are maybe connected with rootstock P. Trifoliata, maybe an alarm (tree do not looks too good when that happens, in such occassion I was able to 'smell' what is going on even being a couple of meters away)... I'm raising rooted Meyer's cutting just to check is it rootstock issue.
Off-scent is less noticeable on variegatted Meyer tree but that one I have for couple of years only, too early to draw conclusion.

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Posted: Sun 16 Jan, 2011 1:51 pm

Millet wrote:
As Gene Lester says, if you can easily purchase a citrus variety in the store, why grow it. - Millet (730-)


The only citrus I have been able to find that is high quality in a grocery store here in SE Texas is red Texas grapefruit, lemons and limes. The oranges and mandarins are horrible, especially from California.

My latest waste of money at Whole Foods was for Honey mandarins from Florida and Gold Nugget mandarins from California. Both were very poor quality, not juicy and not sweet. Hope springs eternal though and I'll probably get robbed again the next time I buy grocery store citrus fruit.

California navels should be charged with impersonating an orange IMHO!

Dr Manners with all the legal regulations on the Florida citrus industry for quality, why are such rubbish allowed to be sold as Florida mandarins?

This is not my first experience with bad quality citrus fruit in the grocery.
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Posted: Sun 16 Jan, 2011 6:33 pm

It is unfortunate when you get less-than-excellent fruit at the store. This year's freezes have caused real problems with fruit quality, so I think that's a big part of it with this season's crop.
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Posted: Mon 17 Jan, 2011 9:20 pm

Sylvain wrote:
For the first time I have lemons on my Meyer.
Very disappointing.
I don't like it as a lemon and will try in a lemon pie as recommanded.
For me, the issue is not that it is slightly sweet or less acidic than the regular lemon. It is that the taste and fragrancy of lemon is not there. Sad


I agree with Sylvain. The aroma of a true lemon just isn't there. In addition, there is a different aroma that seems to me to be somewhat like turpentine. I picked six of them two days ago along with some limes and oranges and I used one of the Meyer lemons with my lunch today. I still use them but if I were to purchase a lemon tree again I would choose a true lemon cultivar over a Meyer lemon.

Meyer lemons are very productive, the trees are small, and they tolerate cold better than true lemons but the trees have a tendency to drop their leaves more than most other citrus cultivars and the aroma just isn't the same as a true lemon.

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Posted: Mon 17 Jan, 2011 9:54 pm

I just bought some Cara Cara's from a store that had some of the best I've ever tasted last year. This year they are sour and lacking sweetness. They don't even resemble the fruit I bought last year.

Another reason to grow common fruit if you use a lot, is price. Prices are getting insane and we love our lemon and limes.
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Posted: Tue 18 Jan, 2011 1:02 am

Malcolm_Manners wrote:
It is unfortunate when you get less-than-excellent fruit at the store. This year's freezes have caused real problems with fruit quality, so I think that's a big part of it with this season's crop.


While I love most all citrus it has been my experience that I am very unlikely to get QUALITY fruit at any store even the so called markets that specialize in fresh fruit. It is so bad that I just don't buy it any more. The oranges are the worst having little to no taste. The color is great and it's juicy but what good is that when it taste like nothing. You would think me living in Florida it would all be great. Maybe all the good stuff gets shipped overseas like our best lumber does.

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Posted: Tue 18 Jan, 2011 5:23 am

Darkman wrote:
Maybe all the good stuff gets shipped overseas like our best lumber does.


I live overseas (from your viewpoint Smile ) and I can confirm that oranges do taste like nithing here also. The only time of the year they have an acceptable to good taste is during the winter months. I buy lots of oranges for juicing now, especially salustiana and moro varieties. But by the end of February the good orange times will be over...

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Posted: Tue 18 Jan, 2011 6:16 am

Darkman wrote:
Maybe all the good stuff gets shipped overseas...

Every autumn I wonder where our best mandarins ends Very Happy

MarcV wrote:
...But by the end of February the good orange times will be over...

The same here Sad
And, Jaffa oranges was always the best tasting for me, those are not on shelves anymore. Beaten by cheap competition I guess.

"Optical illusion" nets, orange colored for oranges, yellow colored for lemons: Buying fruits packed in such nets always has similar outcome, a half of content to be rubbish.

Not completely off-topic: The last homegrown kiwi fruit was eaten a couple of weeks ago. My wife brought kiwi pack from a grocery yesterday. Eating one fruit her face showed result. "I told you" I said. "Shut up" she replied Smile

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Posted: Tue 18 Jan, 2011 10:20 am

A friend was in Morocco a few years ago. He was really taken by the excellent oranges there.
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