Joe:
Oh, I have another question since I brought this things up:
At Wallmart , they sell this small but long pots 4" by 2 feeet long with citrus grafted in them. It only cost $9.95 but my question is:
I want to cut the existing plant and 'Joe's Bark Graft' ( this is the term I used for your bark graft in short JBG and you can see them in all of my tags now JBG) and I JBG it some rare scions like your clemenule (my favorite now) or seedless Kishu (Another favorite of mine) to the rootstock. I figured it is well worth the expense rather than grow your rootstocks from seed and wait for a couple of years to graft them.
Here you have almost an instant citrus ready to flower.
By the way remember the trifoliate you gave me? I budded my sister's calamondin on it and boy it is over 3 feet now and have lots of flowers. At first I was removing all of the flowers so it will grow vegetative but I changed my mind.

Benny

Benny, those are fantastic items from WalMart, and even Home Depot have them. At least these items are not made in China. They are the cheapest but they are the fastest growers too, overtaking those in big pots. What I do is recommend this to my friends, have them cut off strategically the fattest branches to force them to branch out into small scaffolds, then a year later I'd graft it for them for the varieties that they want. Citruses, especially seedlings are best kept in narrow but taller containers like that one, and I think they are called liners. All these $10 liners that I bought can overtake those that are $60 citruses in 15 gallon pots in just 3 to 5 years. The tree gets bigger quickly, IF you know how to plant these liners.

Yes, I recommend them for building up your own dozens-in-1 citrus tree.

And how do you plant this liners correctly may I ask please?

You know better than me Benny. Just plant them like you have done to the fantastic growing Calamondin I gave you.

Over 3,000 views and only Millet, Joe, Patty, EZ and Laaz took time to reply, the same old reliable friends.
The others- I wonder why.

Ahhh Benny, A lot of people come here to look, read & learn and don't have anything to add. I haven't posted here much, but I read here a lot. Makes me feel confident about starting some grafting soon!
Last yr I bought a citrus & the graft was bad & the tree died (I got reimbursed). The roostock (p Trifoliata) is very healthy & is growing 4 suckers. One sucker has 5 branches -- am tempted to try some grafting on them. Maybe a citrus cocktail tree like you & Joe!!! When I do, I'll be back here, or as Arnold said..."Ahl be bok"

Patty:
And... That's my intent here.
To PUSH people over the edge so they will start somehow to graft, to plant citrus. Out of the 3,027 did I ever succeed somehow even one and tell us about their experience?

Benny, I think you are being too sensitive . Not everyone responds to posts...some people only read. Are you not happy with over 3,000 views!!
Yes, people are trying out graftings & have posted pics. No one HAS to post, but if they do, they can post their own thread if they want.

Benny, just to let you know - some of us lurkers are following in your steps. I have a "liner" plant I picked up at my local Walmart (oxymoron!) this past fall. They managed to kill the Washington Navel that had been grafted to the rootstock. The rootstock, however, was alive and well. I bought the plant because I instantly had my own source of rootstock.

This spring I have allowed the rootstock on my Owari Satsuma and Meyer Lemon (both Four Winds stock) to flush out, so that I could try rooting cuttings from them. The Satsuma appears to be on a Citrange rootstock. The Meyer looks to be either Rough Lemon or Sour Orange. Even though the Citrange (?) was growing quickest to about 13" or so in height, I think I cut it too early. It went totally limp within an hour or so. The other cuttings have just wilted slightly at the newest growth. All three cuttings harvested so far are sitting on a stereo amp to promote root growth. I've left additional scions on each tree for harvesting in few more more weeks.

Kent

Joe, like Benny I am curious as to your remarks about the liner plants. Are suggesting leaving such trees in the liner for 3 - 5 years? In addition to the rootstock mentioned above that is still in the liner, I have a Pixie in a liner too. I was just about to pot up these until I read your comments.

I did this past fall pot up a Valencia, a Dancy, and a Cara Cara. The first two are beginning to flush all over. The Cara Cara suffered a bit of a setback when I hit it with Safer insecticidal soap early this winter and promptly burned off all the flushing growth. Now I leave the aphids to the lady bugs and other natural predators.

Kent

Patty:
It is like a pet peeve, once you get it out of your chest, you feel better.
I feel better already someone wrote something here. And a very good one at that.
I may answer that Sonoma but this is just my thought about it. When I get a plant liner like that I think of a 3 gallon pot then after a year when it grows bigger transplant it to a 5 gallon then 7 gallon then 15 gal and ultimately to a wine barrel. So you see I save my old pots. I may skip the pot succesion if the liner plant grows like a weed.
Thanks for returning my call. And you made me smile when you mention Wallmart and in parenthesis(oxymoron). I can only guess what it is in your mind.
Benny

Not sure what a plant "liner" is. I have several tall tree pots - 4" w X 14" tall.
Are those liners? When they get rootbound I pot up to bigger.

Citrus Joe and I purchased a LOT of different liner citrus trees last Feburary from Tree Source, LLC in California. They were all $5.50 each except for the Indio Mandarinquat/Volkameriana ($11.00) and the Sanguinelli Blood Orange/Carrizo (11.00). Here are the varieties of grafted citrus trees and their rootstocks that we purchased for $5.50 per tree. Lane Late Navel/C-35, Dobashi Beni Satsuma/Sour Orange, Pixie Mandarin/Carrizo, Clementine Caffin/C-35, Boquet De Fleur/Volk, Gold Nugget Mandarin/Volk, Fingered Citron/Sour Orange, Variegated Calamondin/Volk, Centennial Calamondin/Volk, Chandler Pummelo/Sour Orange, Powell Navel/Rich 16-6, Fukumoto Navel/Carrizo, Red Valencia/Sour Orange. All trees were in excellent condition. Better to buy directly from the nursery that grew them. - Millet

Maybe a citrus cocktail tree like you & Joe!!! When I do, I'll be back here, or as Arnold said..."Ahl be bok"[/quote]