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eyeckr
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Posted: Wed 01 May, 2013 1:40 pm

Next up Kumquts and Hybrids:

Lakeland limequat
Citrangequat
Marumi
NaMeiwa #1 & #2
Pyriform Nagami
Selected Meiwa

http://www.scribd.com/doc/138692762/Kumquats-and-Hybrids
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Posted: Wed 01 May, 2013 1:49 pm

Ichang Papeda Hybrids:

ClemYuz 2-2
ClemYuz 3-3
Changsha x Yuzu #1
Changsha x Yuzu #2

http://www.scribd.com/doc/138692964/Ichang-Papeda-Hybrids
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Posted: Wed 01 May, 2013 1:53 pm

Trifoliate and SanCitChang Hybrids

CiClem
Citrandarin
Citrumelo
Sanford Citrange x Changsha

http://www.scribd.com/doc/138693182/Trifoliate-and-SanCitChang
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Lemandarangequatelo
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Posted: Thu 02 May, 2013 7:19 am

Thanks Eyeckr! I grabbed the lot! Laughing

Woah, just read about the O.P. Nagami Shocked :

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O.P. Nagami

This seedling has almost no juice, so has best flavor of any kumquat; the fruit tends to be small and is seedless in most years. The tree is rounded, bushy, and one of most attractive citrus; exceptionally hardy when given good care.


This sounds almost like my perfect citrus! Does anyone know where we can get this variety?
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eyeckr
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Posted: Thu 02 May, 2013 2:10 pm

I have a very small OP Nagami tree in my yard on flying dragon that handles the winter very well. It was one of the first trees I grafted out in my yard and is likely to be the one of the hardiest evergreen citrus trees out there. You're right Lemandarangequatelo this is a good variety which makes me wonder why it is not more widely distributed. I did learn something about grafting kumquats with this tree, when at all possible don't use flying dragon unless you want a very small tree. Kumquats in general and especially this variety grows so slow that when grafted on flying dragon we are talking snails pace in growth. It tends to cycle off and on with blooming and dropping fruit but when it does hold onto fruit it is just as described. Propagation on this one might only be available through grafting. I don't think I've run across any seed from it but I can check with my local citrus mentor, Dr Bob who has the original OP Nagami tree I grafted mine from. He had a nice crop last winter.
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Lemandarangequatelo
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Posted: Fri 03 May, 2013 7:40 am

Thanks for the great info Eyeckr! I agree they should definitely distribute a good variety like this as widely as possible.

Would be awesome to try and cross this with a large dry citron to try and get a bigger version of the fruit. They should use it as a parent for many crosses.
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Posted: Fri 03 May, 2013 3:23 pm

Eyeckr thank you for all your links. Too bad I have a hard to translate.
I searched the OP Nagami, but only Sylvain had one, but I think the tree is sick or dead.
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Posted: Sat 04 May, 2013 2:34 pm

Lemandarangequatelo wrote:
Thanks Eyeckr! I grabbed the lot! Laughing

Woah, just read about the O.P. Nagami Shocked :

Quote:

O.P. Nagami

This seedling has almost no juice, so has best flavor of any kumquat; the fruit tends to be small and is seedless in most years. The tree is rounded, bushy, and one of most attractive citrus; exceptionally hardy when given good care.


This sounds almost like my perfect citrus! Does anyone know where we can get this variety?


The fruit never turns orange and is very sour. A loser IMHO. I gave my 10 gallon large tree away.
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eyeckr
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Posted: Sat 04 May, 2013 4:05 pm

Another loser Mr Texas??

I respect your opinion but I wonder if you actually had a true OP Nagami? Maybe it's possible that you had a different selection or a mislabled plant. The OP Nagami I have always turns orange once it sets fruit, is not sour and quite tasty.
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Posted: Mon 06 May, 2013 10:15 am

Op Nagami is the same as the Normann seedless?
http://citruspages.free.fr/kumquats.php#nordmann
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eyeckr
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Posted: Mon 06 May, 2013 1:01 pm

Nordmann is not the same. OP is much smaller while Nordmann has got more size to it, longer with an almost teardrop shape. The first two pictures in the link are incorrect.

Just to keep things moving along I also wanted to share an article written by the late citrus enthusiast Sherwood Akin. He talks about his experiences with the following varieties and some other notable varieties:

Early St Anne
Bob Stump Changsha
Lee Sharp 10 degree kumquat aka 7 degree kumquat
Keraji
7 degree Southern Belle Satsuma
US119
Nuclem
Atlas Koa
Siamese Sweet
Thong Dee
Dunstan Honey Orange
Biloxi Orange


http://www.scribd.com/doc/138697163/Sherwood-Akin

The Southern Fruit Fellowship is a nice group of fruit growers that I've been happy to been a member of. A few times a year articles by members are sent out sharing stories, tips and even recipes about fruit.
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Millet
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Posted: Mon 06 May, 2013 6:14 pm

Sherwood Akin, his wife and one hired man was the entire work force on Sherwood's farm. All three were far advanced in age. - Millet
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Hershell
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Posted: Mon 06 May, 2013 11:10 pm

Thanks eyeckr, very interesting. I have several of the varieties mentioned and would like to have more of them.

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eyeckr
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Posted: Mon 13 May, 2013 1:54 pm

I did a bunch of grafting this weekend and was able to take a picture of the OP Nagami tree:

 photo opnagamitree_zpsc48e032a.jpg

Tree loaded with fruit:

OP Nagami Tree fruit photo opnagamintreefruit_zpsb8423ebf.jpg

Bite sized, seedless OP fruit on a plate:

OP Nagami fruit on plate photo opnagaminfruitonplate_zps150eac93.jpg
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Lemandarangequatelo
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Posted: Mon 13 May, 2013 3:47 pm

Thanks for the pics Eyeckr, the OP Nagami tree is a beauty! Judging by the size it must be quite old?

The fruit made my mouth water, this reminds me to go find some Nagami from the markets if they have some.
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