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Laaz
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Posted: Sun 06 Aug, 2006 10:16 pm

Heres a few palms I have in the yard.

Cretan Date Palms



Silver Date Palm



California Fan Palms



Pindo Palm



Mediterranean Fan Palm

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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Sun 06 Aug, 2006 10:42 pm

Nice pics Laaz. How nice to start a palm forum Laughing Aren't those California Fans called Tracycarpus Fortunai? I have one (of 4diff. palms). I'd post pics but they won't upload into my 'puter for some reason..grrr.
Those fan palms sure grew since last Nov!! What kind of citrus is that to right of them?

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Laaz
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Posted: Sun 06 Aug, 2006 10:55 pm

Hi Patty. Tracycarpus Fortunai is a windmill palm. I have a few of those as well. The citrus to the right of the Calf fan palms is a Owari Satsuma. There is also a Kimbrough to the right of that, that you can't see. In the round planting bed with the Calf palms is Flying Dragon, Ruby Red grapefruit, Changshou Kumquat, Centennial Kumquat, Calomondin, Variegated Calomondin & Sudachi...

Yeah I know the grass needs cutting, but I'm on call this weekend so it will have to wait till tomorrow... Surprised Shocked
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 12:55 am

Those are some BIG satsuma's! Hate to say this but I believe Windmill is different than Trachycarpus F. from my reading up a while back.
Your grass looks much better than mine! Mine got brown from heat.
I'll see if I can post pics later.

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Laaz
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:01 am

Hi patty. Believe me I know palms.

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/2255/index.html

Trachycarpus has many varieties, being some of the most cold hardy palms there is. The common name is windmill palms though.

Some of the more common & not so common are:

Trachycarpus fortunei
Trachycarpus latisectus
Trachycarpus martianus
Trachycarpus martianus (Nepal Form)
Trachycarpus martianus (Patkai Hills Form)
Trachycarpus nanus
Trachycarpus sp. (Naga Hills / Manipur)
Trachycarpus tesan
Trachycarpus Latisectus
Trachycarpus takil
Trachycarpus wagnerianus
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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:12 am

http://www.plantapalm.com/vpe/photos/Species/trachycarpus_fortunei.htm
Now that I see this, mine looks more like your fan palms. These are too bushy. After trying to identify it 4 yrs ago, I came up with Trachy!
Now, if camera will connect w/ 'puter Rolling Eyes

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Laaz
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:19 am

Post a pic of your palm & I'll tell you what it is. The CA & Mexican palms look very similar. The MX gets quite a bit taller & has a redder thinner trunk. Let me go take a pic of my Trachycarpus Fortunei.
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 1:26 am

Ok heres one of my Fortunei's The easy way to tell them apart from other fan palms is the fiberous trunks they have (Like woven hairs).

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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 6:47 am

There is a diff. Your fronds are separated & mine are more like an accordian. Mine has the fibrous hairs too.

Here's my Canary Island Date palm. I cut a lot of fronds off from frost in Nov 04..before I could get it in sunroom. This is all 1 yrs growth. Both are about 6 ft & I trim roots once a yr or so.

On left is one of 4 sabal (or cabbage) palms I planted from seed. Middle is one of 3 pygmy date palms & on right is sago that I bought at citrus expo in SC.

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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 6:58 am

Patty the top photo is either a Washingtonia robusta or Washingtonia filifera (Mexican or California fan palm). It is not a Trachycarpus fortunei. the Trachycarpus have the entire trunk covered in the hair like fiber. Your palm should have very sharp "teeth" down the frond.

When that CIDP gets too big send it down to me, I'll plant it in the yard ... They do great down here... Laughing
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 9:33 am

I meant that there are hairy fibers on the leaves & not trunks. Yes, there are not-so-sharp thorny bumps along stems of fronds. Maybe I should take a better pic tomorrow? I tell ya, that CIDP has some vicious thorns!!! It sure is nice to just move them up 3 inches to sunroom instead of in basement for winter!
I just found a pic of the 2 when I first bought them in Tx. 7 yrs ago. I had them shipped home, but they look so little! I don't know why this preview is so haywire, but anyway, those are my 2 palms I bought then,..don't know what that white pot is, but look at how small the palms are. I sent my Mom (living in Redding Ca) bus ticket (she won't fly) to Tx to meet me there & visit my son & that was the last time I saw her . She died in early '02
If & when I'm ready to get rid of CIDP, I'll remember you Laaz.
I had to keep those 2 outside while I was drywalling the sunroom in Nov '04 & we had a ice storm. I put a blanket around the base & very center. The ffronds were covered with ice but I kept the center core from freezing. It (they) looked dead for the whole winter 'till last summer when it perked back up. It's growing good now but goes to sleep here in winter.
BTW, there are several bars around here that buy & plant palms every spring. Winter kills them but they buy more the next spring. Wonder how much $ that costs!??

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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 9:40 am

Fixed it for ya.
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Posted: Mon 07 Aug, 2006 11:52 pm

Closer shot of stem of frond. It has VERY sharp little thorns!

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Laaz
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Posted: Tue 08 Aug, 2006 12:37 am

Yes that for sure is a Washingtonia. If you look under the base of the stem it should be red or brown...
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Posted: Tue 08 Aug, 2006 3:12 am

Laaz, your going to have to get a nursery license if you keep going with the collection. My Sealing Wax Palm, has been transplanted, fertilized, and given a home in the greenhouse. - Millet
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