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Patty_in_wisc Citrus Angel
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1842 Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi
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Posted: Mon 27 Mar, 2006 3:28 am |
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Is there a difference? And, what is it?
I have last yrs. new growth & new buds blooming. Sorry, but I need to know...am confused. Thanks
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Mon 27 Mar, 2006 4:35 am |
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They are often used interchangeably, but when you're talking to me, I will talk about budwood with the intent of taking good quality buds from them for T-budding or Chip budding, and for citruses, I am really finicky on where the budwoods are taken from which part of the tree. When you talk to me about scionwood, that would be more general purpose grafting, intended for budding, cleft-grafting, tongue and whip, bark grafting, etc. |
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Patty_in_wisc Citrus Angel
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1842 Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi
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Posted: Mon 27 Mar, 2006 5:05 am |
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Thank you JoeReal,
but what is the difference between budwood & wood scion? (if any) Is scion wood older than budwood??
Patty (feeling really stupid) |
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Ned Citrus Guru
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 999 Location: Port Royal, SC (Zone 8b)
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Posted: Tue 28 Mar, 2006 1:01 am |
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Patty, I think pretty much everyone that selects budwood during the dormant season ends up using it for both types of grafting ( remember, budding is just another form of grafting). That said, when they get ready to graft or bud they choose the specific budstick (aka scionwood) that would work best for the job at hand.
If collected during the growing season, you would most likely be budding, and select wood with that in mind. It is possible to graft then also, and the wood would be pretty much the same in either case. I sometimes choose the method of grafting (budding) based on the wood I have available. For instance, I may have got my hands on a small piece of much desired scion, that is not the best to take buds from, but that could better be put on a rootstock by cleft grafting.
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Westwood Citruholic
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 454 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue 28 Mar, 2006 1:11 am |
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Patty Dont feel stupid i asked this same Q to a member in Ims because i was afraid to look like an Idiot at least you had the Fruits to ask aloud ..
So i guess if you dont know the answer its best to ask ..doesnt make you stupid it shows your wanting to learn ...Tammy _________________ If it breaths and loves life Im a Friend..
If it Breaths and Hurts life .. thats the end.. |
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disneygirl Citruholic
Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 180 Location: Methuen, MA - Zone 6
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Posted: Tue 28 Mar, 2006 1:31 am |
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My interpretation of anything scion is all parts of the tree above the graft line( rootstock). I think of it as each part of the scion has is't own name, as we would have a finger, scion has a budstick/wood, and so on. I also think size/age is a factor as to what it is called. Anyways, that's the way I think of it. Hope this makes sense to you. I'm still working on it myself, you know the whole understanding of all the names. _________________ Disneygirl |
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Patty_in_wisc Citrus Angel
Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 1842 Location: zone 5 Milwaukee, Wi
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Posted: Tue 28 Mar, 2006 1:48 am |
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Thanks all -- especially you Ned for talking 'layman's' terms LOL. You made it look so easy when you grafted a bud at expo. I guess I can learn more by trial & error now. Thanks again.
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citrange Site Admin
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 589 Location: UK - 15 miles west of London
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Posted: Tue 28 Mar, 2006 8:33 am |
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Most people use these terms interchangeably. I don't consider there's any difference because I would define budwood as:
'a twig containing a bud for propagation by budding or grafting'.
Any budwood/scionwood must contain a bud, or it wouldn't ever grow.
However, I suppose some people might define budwood as:
'a twig intended for use in propagation only by budding'.
In this case, they could say there's a slight difference, because you need a nice fat ready-to-grow bud for budding. Scionwood, if intended for grafting rather than budding, can be more dormant.
I hope that's clear and not confused you more! |
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