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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Wed 12 Aug, 2009 12:58 am

In spring '08 I bought a 4 in one apple tree, & one variety (Dwarf Anna) had a ton of blossoms but no fruit. No cross pollination from another variety I guess. It's now a 6 in one thanks to Joe Real & Phillip for budsticks! The winter banana is just now trying to push a bud out so then it will be a 7 in one.
I'm wondering why this spring, I didn't get one blossom on any of them!
Does Anna only blossom once every 2 years? Shouldn't I be expecting blossoms on all next spring? The tree is healthy & just over 6 ft tall.
Also, when is the best time to prune? Now or around October?
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Posted: Wed 12 Aug, 2009 2:57 am

If you get enough warm weather for the tree to break dormancy followed by too much cold there won't be any blossoms. I have this problem sometimes with apples and most of the time with apricots. It seems to be worse with immature trees. How did other apple trees do this year in your neighborhood?

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Posted: Wed 12 Aug, 2009 5:57 pm

Patty
I have an Anna (not a dwarf) and it blossoms every spring. ItÂ’s a very low chill apple and requires a pollinator, but some folks say that it is partially self fertile. I have an Einshimer for pollination.
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Posted: Wed 12 Aug, 2009 8:10 pm

There are 2 apple trees next door that have apples on and they are well over 40 yrs old. Einshimer is a variety on but no blossoms last yr or this year.
We did have a rotten spring. I wonder if after it broke dormancy we got a nightime frost. That would do it huh? If we don't get blossoms next spring I think I'll cry...waaah.

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Posted: Wed 12 Aug, 2009 11:39 pm

I have an Anna Apple that pruduces abundent apples each year. It has pruduced every year since we have had it. It blooms once early in January/February and again in late Summber/Fall. It has a few blooms on it now where it was pruned this summer. The spring crop is worthwhile, where as the fall one is small and only produces a few small fruit. I don't think there are any other Apples that bloom at the same time in the neighborhood. I'm not sure when it would be good to prune in your area. I would probabbly prune in spring after the chance for hard frosts have passed.
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Posted: Sat 15 Aug, 2009 10:54 pm

The winter banana graft is budding out -- I now have a 7 in 1 apple tree. WOOPEE

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Posted: Sun 16 Aug, 2009 12:34 am

The apple variety Anna was hybridized in Israel, and is a remarkable low chill apple, requiring only 200 -250 chill hours. Anna is a good choice for warmer areas like California and the Southeastern states. Although they can be made to grow in higher and lower zones, the apple is adaptable to zones 5 to 8. Therefore, it is just on the edge of being adaptable in Wisconsin winters. Not the best choice for your area. According to Israeli information annual pruning and shaping, along with a good pollinator are required to insure healthy and productive trees. See you at the Expo?? - Millet (1,250-)
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Posted: Mon 17 Aug, 2009 3:18 pm

Thanks Millet. I don't know where this tree came from - where it was grafted. I bought it last yr spring at HD or Menards. I don't know what the rootstock is, but if it did OK last winter it should be fine. I think it must've been the frost after it broke dormancy.
I would LOVE to go to the expo Very Happy - but I'm broke Crying or Very sad

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Posted: Tue 01 Sep, 2009 12:11 pm

Patty_in_wisc wrote:
The winter banana graft is budding out -- I now have a 7 in 1 apple tree. WOOPEE


I'm glad to hear it took. One of my Winter Banana buds that I budded before I sent you the budwood finally broke dormancy a couple of weeks ago. It's now growing like a week. I'm now going to use Winter Banana as a interstock on all of my apple rootstocks.

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Patty_in_wisc
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Posted: Tue 01 Sep, 2009 3:18 pm

You did a Tbud graft? I've been afraid to use that as I failed w/ it in my citrus grafts. I did a wedge/cleft graft & left 3 buds on the stick. The lowest bud now has 2 branches out about 1 1/2 inches long! My, it sure took a long time, but I'm glaad it budded now before winter.
I did same graft on my avocados but none took. For the heck of it, I took 2 buds left over & did Tbuds on it & they are just now also taking. Looks like they will bud out soon Very Happy
The apple tree grew well this year - about 2 feet taller & the trunk got nice & thick. Mike is so proud to tell ppl it has 7 diff kinds of apple on it.
That sucker better blossom next spring! I'll borrow pollen from the apple tree next door if I have to.
Hoping you are safe from those fires!!

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Posted: Tue 01 Sep, 2009 5:15 pm

Patty_in_wisc wrote:
You did a Tbud graft?


I did a T-bud on the one I did prior to sending you the scion wood. The two more recent ones I did were verneer grafts since I now have a little more scion wood from the growth this season. Of the 4 grafts/buds I've done, all except for 1 of the buds have taken. Apples seem to be much easier to graft than the other types of fruit trees.

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