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dauben
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Posted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007 1:39 pm

This is sad because the water district I work for has to spend millions trying to dispose of 1 million gallons of water every day at the same time growers are going to have to destroy thier crops because of the lack of water. The 1 MGD however is recycled water that has been shuned by growers due to it's high salt content. I'm not aware of any studies, but I bet if the recycled water was blended with the imported water the salinity would be down enough to keep the trees in production without any detrimental impacts on yield.

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As if wildfires, freezing weather, fruit flies, rising gas prices and global competition aren't enough, in January citrus farmers must cut water usage 30 percent, leaving them feeling . . .
By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

December 9, 2007

VALLEY CENTER – Bob Polito would prefer not to cut down 1,200 of the citrus trees that are lined up in neat green rows on his 68-acre ranch.

After all, citrus trees have provided his family with a living for the past quarter-century. Citrus trees helped pay for his oldest son's Ivy League education. Citrus trees gave him the chance to leave his former job as a diesel mechanic in the city and live the country lifestyle.

But really, what choice does he have?

Southern California is grappling with one of the worst water shortages in decades, and no one faces a more uncertain future than the region's estimated 3,500 to 4,000 farmers. By January, most of them will be under a mandatory order to reduce their water usage by 30 percent.

For Polito, there is only one workable solution, and it is fairly simple: He must destroy a sizable percentage of his 5,500 trees.

“They'll be mulched, basically,” he said one recent morning, sitting at his kitchen table next to a window that offers a lush view of his orange, grapefruit and lemon groves. “I'll have somebody come in and they'll just grind 'em up.”

To be sure, Polito – who, at 56, has a salt-and-pepper mustache and thinning hair –finds the prospect extremely depressing.

“I've watered 'em, I've fertilized 'em and they're going to be gone,” he said. “They're almost like your family. It's what's enabled you to survive. And it's hard to just cut 'em all down.”

An unhappy combination of factors has conspired against Polito and hundreds of other San Diego County citrus and avocado farmers. Northern California and the Colorado River Basin – the two main sources of water for Southern California – are experiencing severe, extended dry spells. San Diego County, meanwhile, is in the midst of its own shortages, although the farming community is hoping this year's rainy season will be wetter than last year's.

Making matters worse is a recent legal development that to many farmers seems nothing short of a cruel hoax. In an effort to protect an endangered fish that lives in the Sacramento Delta, a Fresno-based federal judge ordered a massive cut in the amount of water delivered from the delta to Southern California. Water officials expect the order to remain in place for at least a year, perhaps several.

In the short term, at least, it is the region's farmers who will be required to make the biggest sacrifices.


A 1994 agreement drawn up by the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, which provides water to member agencies in six counties, allowed farmers to buy water at discounted prices with the understanding that they would reduce their water use by up to 30 percent in times of extended drought.

In the nearly 14 years since that agreement was signed, farmers had never been given a mandatory order to cut usage – until now.

To help them cope with the potentially devastating cutback, experts have held dozens of town-hall-style meetings from San Diego to Ventura, fielding questions from stressed-out farmers. Some of the advice: Get rid of under-performing trees; thin out groves so healthy trees get more sunlight and produce more fruit. Then there is the most obvious advice of all: Be as smart and efficient as possible with water usage.

Still, these experts say, there's no doubt that some farmers will see profits shrink, leading to layoffs and other changes. In San Diego County, farmers sell $1.5 billion worth of crops a year.

Eric Larson, executive director of the San Diego County Farm Bureau, said the situation is analogous to ordering every restaurant in San Diego County “to remove 30 percent of their tables and chairs.”

“I think we're going to have some people go belly-up,” said Gary Bender, a San Diego-based farm adviser with the University of California Cooperative Extension.

Particularly in avocado farming, “the profit margin is very, very, very thin,” he said.

Lack of water hasn't been the only problem for the local agriculture industry. San Diego County farmers have had to face wildfires, freezing weather and fruit-fly invasion in the past year. Rising gas prices have raised expenses, and international competition has kept the market price for fruit fairly level.


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The stress and aggravation of the job is starting to get to Polito. He lives with his wife, Mary, 55 (who does the bookkeeping), their 16-year-old son and the family mutt, Dulce. Another son is in college in Ohio and a third graduated from Columbia University and works in New York City.

Asked whether any of his sons are interested in following his career path, Polito replied, “I wouldn't let 'em.”

“I've heard from so many farmers that it's not fun anymore,” he said, sitting at his kitchen table and shaking his head. “It's just not fun anymore.”

Polito has been farming since 1981, when he quit his job as a diesel mechanic in Seattle and moved to Valley Center to manage the citrus ranch his father, a Los Angeles doctor, had purchased two decades earlier. His parents, now retired, still live on the property.

Fun is the reason Polito got into the business. Farming meant working outdoors, being your own boss, using all your skills in a never-ending attempt to master the ancient human endeavor of planting a crop, nurturing it to maturity and harvesting its fruit.

He likes driving around in his pickup truck, inspecting the crops on his Valley Center farm and his two other, smaller ranches in the Pauma Valley.

Now, however, much of his time is spent plotting how to manage with 30 percent less water.

Several weeks ago, he stopped watering more than 1,000 of his trees. And soon – perhaps later this month, perhaps in January – he intends to hire a fellow who will arrive on the property with a giant machine that “looks like a big front-end loader with a grinder on the top.”

Polito will go acre by acre, row by row, deciding which trees should live and which should be turned into wood chips.

“I'll put it off as long as I can,” he said.

Although he doesn't expect to go out of business, Polito said he will certainly take a financial hit. A really wet winter would help. But even with some rain, he figures profits from the sale of his oranges will shrink 20 percent.

As for what changes he expects in his business and lifestyle, he replied, “I don't know. I've never been through this before.”

Asked how he plans to cope with all the uncertainties, he grinned, clasped his hands in prayer and bowed his head.

COUNTY WATER USE: BY THE NUMBERS

326,000 – Number of gallons in one acre-foot, which is enough to serve two families of four for a year

646,833 – Total number of acre-feet used in San Diego County in 2005 (latest available figures)

71,822 – Total number of acre-feet used for agriculture in the county in 2005

SOURCE: San Diego County Water Authority
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Posted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007 5:38 pm

The Southern California problem is not a shortage of water. Southern California's problem is to many people. Southern California was and is a semi-arid area long before people begun to pack the region.
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Posted: Sun 09 Dec, 2007 6:59 pm

Millet wrote:
The Southern California problem is not a shortage of water. Southern California's problem is to many people. Southern California was and is a semi-arid area long before people begun to pack the region.


Too many people is one of many problems in California.
1.) California no longer considers man to have dominion over nature, but nature now has dominion over man (ie California Environmental Quality Act).
2.) We have private companies willing to invest millions in desalinization and willing to contracturally agree to sell water at a rate equal to or less than what we currently pay for imported water. But because of politics it gets shot down.
3.) We have a constituency that is completely ignorant of where their natural resources come from. They think a vital investment is money spent on a Sony Playstation or Nintendo Wii, but getting water to their tap or farm isn't all that important.
4.) And yes, we Californians choose to live in warm climates without a lot of precipitation (and where I work they choose to live 1000-feet higher than the nearest imported water supply).

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Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007 1:15 am

Much of Southern California lives off of the Colorado River, which starts about 40 miles west for my farm.
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Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007 1:22 am

In California State Constitution, any surface runoff water belongs to the state. So if you build your own dam in your own private property, and it collects water from runoff, it belongs to the state and you have to buy that water from the state.

Several years ago, a landowner fishing in his own pond got a felony charge of poaching by fishing in his own pond because the state contends that the water belongs to the state and so he must have a fishing license in order to fish from his own pond. Oh how brilliant the laws are being implemented with too much government. And to think, in the projected $10 Billion deficit, those same people are asking for raises!!!
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Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007 2:49 am

Millet wrote:
Much of Southern California lives off of the Colorado River, which starts about 40 miles west for my farm.


How's your septic tank doing? Any problems? Smile Think of us in California whenever you flush. Then again, it sounds like you might be on the other side of the continental divide.

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Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007 3:08 am

JoeReal wrote:

Several years ago, a landowner fishing in his own pond got a felony charge of poaching by fishing in his own pond because the state contends that the water belongs to the state and so he must have a fishing license in order to fish from his own pond. Oh how brilliant the laws are being implemented with too much government. And to think, in the projected $10 Billion deficit, those same people are asking for raises!!!


Ohh I have so many stories I can tell you that parallel this. When I worked in the private sector we were doing work for the Marine Corps base Camp Pendleton. As Marines are trained to do, they drive their tanks, humvees, etc through the back country on dirt roads that have been used for years. Well low and behold the ruts that the vehicles created are now considered "vernal pools" and home to the endangered fairy shrimp.
They also had to keep their 50 caliber machine guns silent during certain times of year so that nesting birds weren't scared away.

We also have a developer where I work that had already set aside 70 percent of his property as open space and conservation land so he could build his project. As a part of his project, he had to trap "kangaroo rats" and do DNA testing to see if the Kangaroo Rat was the Ramona Kangaroo or the Stevens Kangaroo rat (one is endangered one isn't). Never mind the vast open space left set aside for them to live and thrive, they wanted the remaining 30% of his property.

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Posted: Mon 10 Dec, 2007 2:35 pm

I also posted this link on the links page, but since this thread is about water shortage-- for what it is worth, here is a link on water managment for citrus.

http://www.fao.org/ag/agL/aglw/cropwater/citrus.stm

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Posted: Fri 14 Dec, 2007 2:16 pm

Phillip,
I was thinking about your earlier question on ways to remove dissolved solids (salts) from water, with the value of the crops in the balance it could be worth investigating use of a large ion exchange resin beds to remove salts. The resins can be recharged using acids to remove cations or lye to remove anions. If the salt content is not too high in the first place it could be worth the effort.

---Just a thought.

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Posted: Fri 14 Dec, 2007 6:27 pm

Skeeter wrote:
Phillip,
I was thinking about your earlier question on ways to remove dissolved solids (salts) from water, with the value of the crops in the balance it could be worth investigating use of a large ion exchange resin beds to remove salts. The resins can be recharged using acids to remove cations or lye to remove anions. If the salt content is not too high in the first place it could be worth the effort.

---Just a thought.


I'm actually managing a project to lower the total dissolved solids (TDS = Salts) at our other wastewater treatment plant as a mandate by our Regional Water Quality Control Board to lower salts being discharged in the basin. The wastewater at this particular plant is used on avocado groves. The TDS is currently not reduced significantly by any treatment mechanism and the grove owner reports about a 80% reduction in his avocado yield. His decrease in yield is offset by the free water that he doesn't have to pay for.

Anyway, to make a long story short, this particular project involves using reverse osmosis (and potentially electro dialisis) to lower the TDS to levels that meet our discharge permit. According to the vendors I'm working with, this is the most cost effective mechanism at this point. We treat roughly 800,000 gallons per day at this wastewater treatment plant and this project could be upwards of $2,000,000 dollars. Now if we were to do this at our other treatment plant where the citrus growers are, the RO would probably be about the same cost, but we would also have to build miles and miles of distribution main to reach the growers (or have them truck it). In the end of the day neither our agency nor the growers have this kind of money to throw at it unless a State or Federal grant was available.
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Posted: Sat 15 Dec, 2007 2:34 am

dauben wrote:

We also have a developer where I work that had already set aside 70 percent of his property as open space and conservation land so he could build his project. As a part of his project, he had to trap "kangaroo rats" and do DNA testing to see if the Kangaroo Rat was the Ramona Kangaroo or the Stevens Kangaroo rat (one is endangered one isn't). Never mind the vast open space left set aside for them to live and thrive, they wanted the remaining 30% of his property.


'Found out today that they got the rest of this developers property. 100% of his project is now dedicated grasslands and open space. I like open space, but I think it's funny that politicians wonder why housing is so expensive, why we don't have enough power plants, or enough refineries; I would point to the fact that no one is building anything. At some point I see the growers getting hit also. Not only will they not have enough water, but their acreage is going to become a target for more open space and habitat restoration.

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Posted: Sun 16 Dec, 2007 6:01 pm

dauben wrote:

Anyway, to make a long story short, this particular project involves using reverse osmosis (and potentially electro dialisis) to lower the TDS to levels that meet our discharge permit. According to the vendors I'm working with, this is the most cost effective mechanism at this point. We treat roughly 800,000 gallons per day at this wastewater treatment plant and this project could be upwards of $2,000,000 dollars. Now if we were to do this at our other treatment plant where the citrus growers are, the RO would probably be about the same cost, but we would also have to build miles and miles of distribution main to reach the growers (or have them truck it). In the end of the day neither our agency nor the growers have this kind of money to throw at it unless a State or Federal grant was available.
Phillip


$2,000,000 sounds like a lot, but that is less than a penny a gallon over a year. I don't know how much the distribution lines would cost, but over time I would think it would pay for itself. RO may be better in the long run, since you don't have to recharge, but I have always thought if it as more expensive-- our most pure lab water came from RO, and ion exchange just used for lower quality water like we used to rinse glassware.

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