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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 13 Jan, 2012 1:54 am |  
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				| Had a chat with my neighbor who was wondering if the wonderful navel orange he used to enjoy in Majorca, Spain is available anywhere in the USA?  He described it as a large navel orange, with loose skin that peels like a mandarin, has a very large navel almost like a second "orange in an orange", and very thin-membraned.  And incredibly sweet and juicy.  Anyone know whether or not this is available in the USA, or if UCR has the budwood?  I'd love to to be able to find this for him.  Thanks so much!  _________________
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		| Millet Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 13 Jan, 2012 1:09 pm |  
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				| I don't think Majorca is the name of an orange, but it is the name of an area in Spain where there are many orange groves.  -  (Millet 367 ABO-)  |  | 
	
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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 13 Jan, 2012 2:47 pm |  
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				| In all the old books I've found online, it refers to this navel orange as "Majorca" or "Mallorca" navel orange.  They're famously grown in Soller.  I'm hoping that maybe one of our list members might be able to identify the actual name?  And if I'm very very lucky, UCR had budwood.  I'd love to find this for my neighbor if at all possible, even if I have to graft to get it.  _________________
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		| Sylvain Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Sat 14 Jan, 2012 9:49 am |  
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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Sat 14 Jan, 2012 2:12 pm |  
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				| Exactly, Sylvain.  My neighbor lived in Spain with his family for about a year or two while he was in high school. He was originally from the S. California beach area and was a surfer.  He traveled the coast of Spain surfing, and went over to Majorca to surf as well.  When he would visit Majorca, he said he would have the most incredible oranges there.  They were this navel orange that peeled like a mandarin, had extremely thin membranes and a really large twin or navel. He was hoping I could find out the name of this navel orange, and see if we have them available here in the US, and more specifically in California.  I was hoping that maybe we had a Spanish forum member who might know the name of this variety.  I am hoping to be able to go to the UCR Citrus Day coming up here in a couple of weeks, so I will be asking the folks at UCR if they know of this particular navel orange.  _________________
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				| Posted: Sun 15 Jan, 2012 5:30 pm |  
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				| How about trying to contact someone in Majorca. If it is a variety from Soller, it shouldnt be too hard to find out. On the other hand there are probably hundreds of navel orange vars at USDA, and they still may not have it.  |  | 
	
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				| Posted: Sun 15 Jan, 2012 5:40 pm |  
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				| That's what I think I'm going to do, pagnr.  There is a lovely resort in Soller that grows these navel oranges - you can even adopt a navel orange tree in exchange for fruit, marmalade, etc.  They may be able to give me the exact name.  Love to be able to adopt a tree, but alas, I'd never be able to receive fruit, sigh.  
 
Patty S.   _________________
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				| Posted: Mon 16 Jan, 2012 12:14 am |  
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				| The gentlemen on your video, may or may not, have the navel orange you are interested in, as his grove was recently re-planted with new trees.  The variety of navels grown in Majorca are more than likely, one of the varieties listed under Navel Oranges on the CCPP web site. - Millet (355 ABO-)  |  | 
	
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				| Posted: Mon 16 Jan, 2012 12:24 am |  
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				| Yes, but figured he might know. And, not able to find any other growers' web sites to ask.  That was the only grower I could find on the Internet.  And, went through all the navel oranges at the UCR Citrus Variety web site, and none really sounded like "the one".  A few from Spain, but that's not quite the same as Majorca.  But, if I end up gaining a spot to attend Citrus Day at UC Riverside, I'll be sure to ask about it     And, if there is budwood available.  If I can't buy it, I'll have to graft it, then. _________________
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				| Posted: Mon 16 Jan, 2012 6:44 am |  
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				| List of navel orange varieties in IVIA (Instituto Valenciano de Investigaciones Agrarias) germoplasm bank in Spain.:
 ADRIAN  IVIA - 229
 APOPKA  IVIA - 201
 BARNFIELD (R)(E)  IVIA - 351
 BERMAR  IVIA - 163
 BONANZA  IVIA - 67
 CARA CARA  IVIA - 300
 CELIA  IVIA - 156
 CHISLETT (R)(E)  IVIA - 454
 CRAM  IVIA - 211
 DREAM  IVIA - 213
 FISHER  IVIA - 199
 FUKUMOTO-1 (E)  IVIA - 364
 GODAYLA (PR)  IVIA - 272
 LANE LATE  IVIA - 198
 LANE LATE NUCELAR  IVIA - 458
 LENG  IVIA - 216
 MAS BARO  IVIA - 232
 MONCAR  IVIA - 159
 MORITA  IVIA - 324
 NAVEL CON SEMILLAS  IVIA - 467
 NAVELATE AM  IVIA - 72
 NAVELATE BURRIUM  IVIA - 160
 NAVELATE GIRONA  IVIA - 5
 NAVELATE NUCELAR  IVIA - 456
 NAVELATE P-2  IVIA - 2
 NAVELATE PIQUER  IVIA - 157
 NAVELINA ENL-1  IVIA - 293
 NAVELINA NUCELAR  IVIA C 457
 NAVELINA RICART  IVIA - 7
 NAVELINA TORRENTE  IVIA - 56
 NEGRA  IVIA - 442
 NEWHALL  IVIA - 55
 PINALATE (R)  IVIA - 266
 POWELL (R)(E)  IVIA - 352
 PRIMAVERA GIL  IVIA - 329
 RICALATE (R)  IVIA - 231
 ROHDE SUMMER (R)(E)  IVIA - 357
 SANGRE  IVIA - 153
 SWEET  IVIA - 269
 TARAZONA  IVIA - 252
 TARDIA PEGO  IVIA - 133
 THOMSON  IVIA - 538
 WASHINGTON FOYOS  IVIA - 45
 WASHINGTON FROST  IVIA - 222
 WASHINGTON PARENT  IVIA - 123
 WASHINGTON PRECOZ   IVIA - 6
 WORKMAN    IVIA - 174
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				| Posted: Mon 16 Jan, 2012 12:58 pm |  
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				| Thanks, Radoslav.  Now, to figure out which of the 47 varieties might be the one mostly grown in Majorca with the previously listed characteristics.     
I could try contacting IVIA and ask them, perhaps.  Time to brush up my Spanish. _________________
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