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Roberto
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| Posted: Mon 17 Aug, 2009 6:27 pm |
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Hi,
I've got some seeds of P. t. that should bear less bitter fruits (that is what I have been told). Have anybody heard about this?
Greetings from good old Europe
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Laaz
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| Posted: Mon 17 Aug, 2009 6:42 pm |
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Hello Robert. I think even a less bitter trifoliata would still be too nasty to eat. 
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Roberto
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| Posted: Wed 19 Aug, 2009 7:03 pm |
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Hi Laaz,
You are right, but as a parent of a new hybrid a less bitter P. might be a good thing. And I am always interested how far variations of Poncirus can go. Some say there is the edible Poncirus. But no idea how much theses people can take 
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Laaz
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| Posted: Wed 19 Aug, 2009 7:12 pm |
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Yes there is the dragon lime which people say is edible, but I have tried it and it is in no way edible.
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buddinman
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| Posted: Thu 20 Aug, 2009 11:53 am |
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I found the hybrid Flying Dragon trifoliata at Treesearch farms in Houston back in the 80s. The plant was with a bunch of trifoliata seedlings. I did not t-bud this plant and obtained budwood. The original disappeared from treesearch. I still have a plant in my back yard but would not consider it worthile to eat. When harvested while somewhat green it is not too bad but not very good.
George mcAfee, Houston TX was the person that called it Dragon Lime. |
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Roberto
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| Posted: Sun 30 Aug, 2009 8:43 pm |
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I have heard about the dragonlime but do not know where to get one in Europe. I think it is not easy to send plants from the US to the EU?
For really edible Citrus I concentrate all my hope on a citsuma which originates from Russia. Bernhard Voss says it has fruits similar to satsuma with no off-flavors. It should be hardy down to -15°C or even lower.
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Sylvain
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| Posted: Mon 31 Aug, 2009 6:15 am |
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Are you sure it comes from Russia? Don't you mean the "Prag" Citsuma? |
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Roberto
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| Posted: Wed 02 Sep, 2009 7:03 pm |
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You are right. This is what I heard fist, but I also read that it comes from Russia. I don't know what's right. |
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Bernhard
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| Posted: Thu 03 Sep, 2009 3:47 am |
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It was bread in the botanic institute of Prag, where I collected it. They gave the original plant to me because the institute was closed.
They told me it should be hardy to -12°, but I never tested it. As it is mostly monofoliate and has sweet fruits with no poncirus flavor, it might be a Citrange x Satsuma hybrid - more as a poncirus x Satsuma hybrid, I think.
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Roberto
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| Posted: Fri 04 Sep, 2009 11:07 am |
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Okay, this was new to me.
I think USDA has a Citsuma of Russian origin. I suppose the same Andi got from them and shared the seed with me
They are clearly different from Prague-Citsuma. They survived last winter (-12°C and permanent frost over 1 month). Poncirus X Sunki survived in even better shape. Alas we do not know anything about fruit quality in either case.
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