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		| Laaz Site Owner
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Wed 12 Dec, 2012 7:05 pm |  
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		| hoosierquilt Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Wed 12 Dec, 2012 7:21 pm |  
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				| Sour variegated orange?  With weird, rough rind due to variegation??  Do we have any Japanese forum members who can do a better translation job than Google Translator??  _________________
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		| Radoslav Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 5:37 am |  
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				| This citrus is sometimes called: 地球柑(ちきゅうかん) - "chi kyu kan" or  "ti kyu kan" 
 
correct name:
 
 citrus aurantium shimadaidai シマダイダイ 
 
nice pictures: 
http://park.geocities.jp/yat5aze2/hana/ti/tikyuukan.html 
just type シマダイダイ  to the google and you will see a lot of nice pictures     |  | 
	
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		| Sylvain Site Admin
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 6:49 am |  
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		| MarcV Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 8:51 am |  
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				| Yet another "must-have"!   _________________
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		| Sanguinello Gest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				| Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 1:01 pm |  
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				| How tastes that ?
 Very bitter ?
 
 There is a legend in Japan, that you get very old, if you eat that fruit ...
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		| Millet Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 8:29 pm |  
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				| Sanguiello, you hit it directly on the nose, when you wrote..."How taste that?"  Its the exact question when it comes to any of these citrus varieties.  When choosing a citrus tree, I give little notice to how rare the tree, how strange the fruit, how colored the pulp, or how variegated or not.  The only concern is taste.  If the fruit's taste is up to the standard of the palette, it finds a nice home in which to flourish,  if not, its out to the compost pile. Some exception can be given if the tree is named after one of the great Saints.- Millet  |  | 
	
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		| Sanguinello Gest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				| Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 8:35 pm |  
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				| Well ... 
 You are just into the taste ... for me the ornamental value is also relevant ...
 
 For example that striped blood orange hits my interest and I would like it also if the taste is less good as the known Moro and Torocco ...
 
 Just if this Japanese Varity is inedible bitter, it would be also not one of my favs ...
 
 At all for I have little space and need to choose carefully which I give the little precious space ...
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		| Laaz Site Owner
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 8:38 pm |  
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				| If it was only about good taste I would go to the grocery store.    _________________
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		| Millet Citruholic
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 8:51 pm |  
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				| The problem with the store, is that such a small choice of citrus varieties are offered for sale. Washigton Navel, Valencia, Moro for a week or so, lemon, lime, minelloa, plus clementines, clementines, clementines, clementines, and yet more clementines. If I lived in California with unlimited space than the story could be different, but I live in Colorado.- Millet  |  | 
	
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		| Radoslav Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 14 Dec, 2012 4:19 am |  
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				|  	  | Laaz wrote: |  	  | If it was only about good taste I would go to the grocery store.  | 
 
 You right,  taste is important, but here  is also a big tradition to have citrus tree for its ornamental value. Just look at the famous Medicea collection. Mostly lemons, sour oranges, lumias etc. - clearly more focused to various fruit shape, than taste.
 Not too many people grown tulips or roses as a food
   
 http://www.homecitrusgrowers.co.uk/citrusplaces/poggio.html
 
 But Millet has his truth also
  , I prefer to collect as much  citrus varieties as possible, to obtain maximum number of taste variants - I'm talking about good taste. |  | 
	
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		| Sanguinello Gest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				| Posted: Fri 14 Dec, 2012 8:51 am |  
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		| grad85 Moderator
 
  
  
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				| Posted: Fri 14 Dec, 2012 1:33 pm |  
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				| I have a little Dai Dai with 2 first small fruit,they are deforming now.
 
By a Canaliculata you see the deforming in a much earlier state.
       
DAi Dai
   
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		| Sanguinello Gest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				| Posted: Fri 14 Dec, 2012 3:12 pm |  
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				| Thanx for that pics !
 Well, that is interesting, but surely you know, that there are a lot of forms of Canalculata.
 At some you see no "canale" at all even.
 Some have some curb somewhere and many irregualry ribs .
 The extreme is Consolei, which has enormous and deformed ribs, sometimes even in different coulors as an obviously Chimera (Baches).
 
 So I am not sure if there is some driect relations between that asian species to our european or not.
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