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Meyer Lemon Orange color?
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karpes Citruholic
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 379 Location: South Louisiana
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Posted: Thu 27 Sep, 2007 1:59 pm |
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If left on the tree, will a yellow Meyer lemon eventually turn to an orange color? If this is true then would the fruit still be edible?
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Laaz Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5679 Location: Dorchester County, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu 27 Sep, 2007 2:48 pm |
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When you leave the fruit to turn orange it gets some off flavor to it. I always use mine just as they start to turn yellow. _________________ Wal-Mart a great place to buy cheap plastic crap ! http://walmartwatch.com/ ...
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Steve Citruholic
Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Southern Germany
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Posted: Thu 27 Sep, 2007 5:49 pm |
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Laaz is right, it will use color.
Cool temperatures will promote fruit coloration, thus exposing the plant to cold temperatures will force the fruits to get yellow and yellow fruits to turn orange....
But it's difficult to get the Meyer Lemons turn orange..... _________________ Eerh, hmm, uuuh, oooh, just guessing |
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gregn Citruholic
Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 236 Location: North Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 2:18 am |
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I ate a 'orange' meyer lemon yesterday - I think it was just over a year old and grown outside. It had some sweet flavours to it. Its Tart but much sweeter than a store lemon. I haven't tried a green to yellow one yet - I only have 10 to choose from and I don't want to eat them all at once - though I could Hopefully more of a crop next year!
Greg _________________ Gregn, citrus enthusiast. North Vancouver Canada. USDA zone 8. I grow In-ground citrus, Palms and bananas. Also have container citrus |
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Davidmac Citruholic
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 149 Location: Havana, Florida zone8b
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Posted: Fri 26 Oct, 2007 7:47 pm |
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When Frank Meyer found this cultivated "Lemon"being grown near Peking China he didn't realize that it is most likely a hybrid between a Sweet Orange or a Mandarin Orange and a Lemon.It's rind lacks the typical lemon taste and it's pulp is darker in color and sweeter than regular lemons-however they are a perfect substitute for regular lemons for nearly any use-especially if picked while somewhat immature.I agree with Laaz that if you wait for them to turn near-orange in color they will have an "off taste".What should we call an orange and lemon hybrid? A lemonange or an Orangemon? If Meyer is a cross between a mandarin orange and a lemon as now supected -should we call it a lemandarin or a Mandarmon _________________
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Steve Citruholic
Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Southern Germany
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Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2007 12:07 pm |
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Davidmac wrote: | What should we call an orange and lemon hybrid? A lemonange or an Orangemon? If Meyer is a cross between a mandarin orange and a lemon as now supected -should we call it a lemandarin or a Mandarmon |
Well, simple.
As we have many natural hybrids of unknown parentage, like the Ponderosa Lemon or the Calamondin.
Calamondin is undoublty a Fortunella Citrus Hybrid, but is not named Mandarinquat... botanically the old name was x-citrofortunella mitis and is now Citrus madurensis.... A good example, how taxonomy works... Discussion and definition is all.
So after discussions with many citrux taxonimists, those varieties are placed into the genaus Citrus because having most undoubly more genes of Citrus. So they were now not sort into the hybrid terms, they will be set into a new family. Here we have the family Citrus meyeri and that is used.
All other depends on definition and on the taxonomy system you want to use...
I use the expanded Tanaka system... so not realy discussion which species the Meyer Lemon is....
But simply: You are right.... but the readly hybridisation of citrus and some relatives is very difficult to express in botanical names, without being to confusing for practicans.
So we must decide one system for us and simply use it.... all other, for me, is expanded knowledge, but should not disturb the botanical system we use.[/i] _________________ Eerh, hmm, uuuh, oooh, just guessing |
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JoeReal Site Admin
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 4726 Location: Davis, California
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Posted: Thu 01 Nov, 2007 1:50 pm |
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Taxonomic naming of citruses should be sorted out officially. It will be a huge endeavor.
Even the USDA, UCR, and all other purported best citrus collections in the world have inconsistent naming. That's why we have tremendous databases of synonyms to get by, and even then we can spot inconsistencies in that the same names, local, common, or scientific are used for distinct cultivars or species.
Who wouldn't be? The fact that citruses can be propagated true to type by seeds has fooled our early taxonomic leaders into thinking that we have separate species while in fact many are hybrids and have been propagating via seeds nucellarly. We only knew about these recently after genetic testing became routine. The very definition of species gets lost especially with hybrids that are nucellar. |
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