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Posted: Thu 27 Nov, 2008 3:21 pm

I know I posted a congrats earlier (maybe I hit the back button). Anyway, as I said earlier, you should get to put that nice Tina grafting knofe to good use now! I am sure you will enjoy the new home!

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Posted: Fri 28 Nov, 2008 4:13 am

Well, I downloaded the fire imagry in the area of the house I've bid on and this is what it looked like. I wondered why some of the rows of citrus trees had abruptly stopped and from the fire picture below, I was able to see that there used to be a lot more citrus trees in areas, but they burned in the fire. I wonder if the irrigation is all still there. Some of our plastic storm drains burned over 100 feet underground. It was like a wick in a candle with plenty of air being sucked in through the pipe to feed the fire.




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Posted: Mon 01 Dec, 2008 5:37 pm

What's all this talk about Misery, I mean Muzzra? Your place looks like it has great potential. Your neighbor has palm trees also! You could turn that place into an oasis! I have always had an eye for what it can be, not what something is. I helped my son buy an old farm house that was a mess. Animals were in the house. Windows broke out. Sits on 4 acres. Well it's a nice place now. The walls were coated in yellow from the chain smoker that had lived there. We got all the bad smells out with Kilz, Its like a paint that doesn't let anything bleed through. We pulled the carpet up and painted the floor, walls, everything before putting any surface material back new. Hope the place comes through for you. Back to the KU/MU thing. I was born in KS and have lived in about every small town in southern MO. My dad was a Southern Baptist country preacher. I live now on 20 acres near KCI airport. Little town called Smithville. My businesses are located there. When I get tired of this place I also have a cabin down at the Lake of the Ozarks. (Pictures later). This is my Oasis. I now want to build a combo barn/office/greenhouse/hottubroom/mediaroom, there us guys can spill beer and not get in trouble. I'll start another post on that later. I don't know if there ar others from MO on here but if not, I'll hold up for MO when need be. Phillip good luck on your endeavor.

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Posted: Thu 04 Dec, 2008 1:19 am

galen wrote:
What's all this talk about Misery, I mean Muzzra? Your place looks like it has great potential.


Thanks Galen. I'm eager to to put some elbow grease into it. Home inspection occurs tomorrow.

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Back to the KU/MU thing. I was born in KS and have lived in about every small town in southern MO. My dad was a Southern Baptist country preacher.


All of my family was from Kansas and Missouri. My grandfather was from Hume, Mo and moved to Kansas City when his dad had a stroke very young. His mom worked as a seamstress. I worked on State Line Road at 83rd Street if I remember. I lived on 95th Street on the Kansas Side in Overland Park.

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I live now on 20 acres near KCI airport. Little town called Smithville. My businesses are located there.


I'm very familiar with Platte County and KCI. I did watershed studies on Walnut Creek, Burlington Creek, and I think Platte Creek just west of KCI. I spent a lot of time tromping around in the woods up there and a lot of time at KCI when my wife and I were courting via a long distance relationship.

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When I get tired of this place I also have a cabin down at the Lake of the Ozarks. (Pictures later). This is my Oasis. I now want to build a combo barn/office/greenhouse/hottubroom/mediaroom, there us guys can spill beer and not get in trouble. I'll start another post on that later. I don't know if there ar others from MO on here but if not, I'll hold up for MO when need be.


I also spent some time down at Lake of the Ozarks. We had family friends down there with a cabin on the lake. We had a good time with my inlaws there.

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Phillip good luck on your endeavor.


Thanks! So far everything's coming together.

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Posted: Thu 04 Dec, 2008 1:25 am

Well I inspected the groves this evening after work. A lot of the trees were either dead or dying, but out of the 134 citrus' that I counted on the aerial photo, I'd say a good 100 are probably okay. It looks like some variety also. I saw some very small citrus that were smaller than a mandarin, but a little larger than my meiwa kumquats (How big are nagami?). The leaves looked like a kumquat. Anyway, I'm very eager for escrow to close. My wife wanted a juicer for Christmas, but didn't want me to get it for her because we're putting just about everything down for the 20%. I think the juicer will be a family gift this year. Smile

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Posted: Thu 04 Dec, 2008 4:43 am

With so many trees are you going to sell the fruit? Is there a tax incentive for having a farm or citrus grove? I know there are a lot of citrus enthusiasts, but it seems like there has to be other benefits.

Hope the inspection goes well with very minor problems.

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Posted: Thu 04 Dec, 2008 12:55 pm

I do hope it goes well. This is a critical step. No hidden problems! I know the grove is an asset but don't let that override a judgement call on the house. I know I don't have to tell you that. The hole place, house and grove are probably going to cost more bucks than you want to get them to your standard.

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Posted: Fri 05 Dec, 2008 2:47 am

galen wrote:
I do hope it goes well. This is a critical step. No hidden problems! I know the grove is an asset but don't let that override a judgement call on the house. I know I don't have to tell you that. The hole place, house and grove are probably going to cost more bucks than you want to get them to your standard.


Thanks. Everything went well with the inspection (for a foreclosure). There are a lot of little things that the inspector found, but nothing major. I have a lot of work, but nothing that I couldn't do myself. Many problems are electrical in nature: a light that won't turn off, GFI switch that won't reset, security lighting that melted during the 2007 fires, double wiring to one breaker, etc. There's also a lot of just broken hardware: door handles, window screens, etc. I will have some work cut out for me.

The one good thing was the well. The inspector was trying to get the fire alarm to go off by opening up the fire suppression valve to the fire sprinklers in the house. He opened the valve and watched the pressure go down. The alarm was to go off after so many seconds when the pressure dropped below a certain level. After time was up, the alarm never came on, but when he looked back at the pressure gauge the well pump was pumping so much water that the pressure had gone back up beyond what was supposed to trigger the alarm. Go figure . . .

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Posted: Fri 05 Dec, 2008 2:57 am

gdbanks wrote:
With so many trees are you going to sell the fruit? Is there a tax incentive for having a farm or citrus grove? I know there are a lot of citrus enthusiasts, but it seems like there has to be other benefits.

Hope the inspection goes well with very minor problems.


I don't know what I'll do with the fruit. This year's crop probably won't be that great since there hasn't been any water to the trees all summer.

As far as the future plans for the fruit, I haven't thought that far in advance, but I'll probably ask the neighbors what they do. They have similar groves on their properties that they keep very well maintained. There's an avocado grove just to the south of the house so they may have some suggestions also. As far as tax benefits, I've heard that a lot of people in the area use their groves as a tax writeoff, but I don't know how that works. They loose money every year??? I won't bother with it if that was the case.

Anyway, I'm very excited. Everything seems to be falling into place.

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Posted: Sat 06 Dec, 2008 12:48 am

Wow Phillip- I hope all works out for the new place. I often day dream about buying five acres to grow many of the things I don't have room for. What a small world- I'm from Kansa City, Missour-ah myself. I lived there until six years ago when I moved to Dallas, TX. I have family in NKC, Smithville and N. Mo. I miss being able to grow the hostas, peonies, lilacs and Japanese maples I had there. I go back for Christmas and birthdays.
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Posted: Sat 06 Dec, 2008 1:18 pm

Matt N wrote:
Wow Phillip- I hope all works out for the new place. I often day dream about buying five acres to grow many of the things I don't have room for. What a small world- I'm from Kansa City, Missour-ah myself. I lived there until six years ago when I moved to Dallas, TX. I have family in NKC, Smithville and N. Mo. I miss being able to grow the hostas, peonies, lilacs and Japanese maples I had there. I go back for Christmas and birthdays.


Hello Matt,
You left KC around the same time I did (maybe a year or two little later). I left in 10/01, but still have many friends and family there. Our only disappointment is that they all said they would come visit, but none of them have. I have family outside of Dallas also (Red Oak).

Anyway, as far as missing things that can be grown in KC, I definitely miss the fall colors, but I lived in an apartment so I never had the opportunity to grow anything other than what was on my balcony.

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